Near death experiences

[Hokulele]

Pretty much we all go to heaven.

That is the very first symptom of the encroaching madness, the pathetic clinging to a false hope, based on a lie. The futile denial of the obvious result of a fragile intelligence existing in an infinite, chaotic space and time demonstrates quite clearly that in the end, all must fall.

Abandon all hope, indeed.

 

[Belz...]

Nobody has experienced literal hell.

Now you're changing the words in order to try to fool us, but no one is fooled. Your "evidence" for heaven is that people have visions of heaven. Logically, visions of hell would be evidence for hell as well, literal or not. You're trying to have it both ways.

 

[slipknot0129]

Now you're changing the words in order to try to fool us, but no one is fooled. Your "evidence" for heaven is that people have visions of heaven. Logically, visions of hell would be evidence for hell as well, literal or not. You're trying to have it both ways.

We only have evidence for heaven, not hell.

 

[Belz...]

We only have evidence for heaven, not hell.

No, no. Explain why NDEs featuring heaven are evidence for heaven and NDEs featuring hell aren't evidence for hell.

 

[slipknot0129]

No, no. Explain why NDEs featuring heaven are evidence for heaven and NDEs featuring hell aren't evidence for hell.

We are living in heaven. Hell would be you burning in fire forever. So theres only evidence for heaven.

 

[Belz...]

We are living in heaven. Hell would be you burning in fire forever. So theres only evidence for heaven.

That's not what you said earlier. You said that NDEs were evidence for heaven awaiting us after death.

Admit it: you're just having a laugh at our expense and making it up as you go.

 

[slipknot0129]

That's not what you said earlier. You said that NDEs were evidence for heaven awaiting us after death.

Admit it: you're just having a laugh at our expense and making it up as you go.

Yes NDE's are evidence for heaven.

 

[Belz...]

Yes NDE's are evidence for heaven.

NDEs are evidence for heaven when we die, and yet we already live in heaven?

Don't you see the contradiction?

 

[slipknot0129]

NDEs are evidence for heaven when we die, and yet we already live in heaven?

Don't you see the contradiction?

When we die, our life continues on somewhere else. Our life right now is heaven.

 

[Hokulele]

We are living in heaven. Hell would be you burning in fire forever. So theres only evidence for heaven.

That is the Christian version of hell. True hell is an eternity of false hope, when one is doomed to infinite madness.

True hell awaits us all. It is inevitable. It is inescapable.

 

[JayUtah]

We only have evidence for heaven, not hell.

You've shown evidence for neither.

 

[Belz...]

When we die, our life continues on somewhere else. Our life right now is heaven.

That doesn't explain how NDEs are evidence for heaven, then.

 

[slipknot0129]

That is the Christian version of hell. True hell is an eternity of false hope, when one is doomed to infinite madness.

True hell awaits us all. It is inevitable. It is inescapable.

We live in a universe of infinite possibilities. That's heaven.

 

[JayUtah]

Yes NDE's are evidence for heaven.

No. People who have experienced NDEs did not die.

 

[slipknot0129]

No. People who have experienced NDEs did not die.

We never die.

 

[JayUtah]

We live in a universe of infinite possibilities. That's heaven.

We don't live in a universe where you have the courage to present your dismissive interpretation of rape and other evils in the presence of people who have actually suffered them. That doesn't appear to be a possibility. Since you don't believe sufficiently in your own claims, I fail to see why anyone else should.

 

[Belz...]

We never die.

Yeah, you definitely don't believe a single word you say.

No one could contradict themselves so casually.

 

[JayUtah]

We never die.

Then there can be no such thing as a near-death experience and your whole argument in this thread evaporates.

 

[slipknot0129]

We don't live in a universe where you have the courage to present your dismissive interpretation of rape and other evils in the presence of people who have actually suffered them. That doesn't appear to be a possibility. Since you don't believe sufficiently in your own claims, I fail to see why anyone else should.

Rape is something you can get over.

 

[slipknot0129]

Then there can be no such thing as a near-death experience and your whole argument in this thread evaporates.

Pretty much we just sleep longer and wake up in another universe that is better. Because the universe is evolving.