Nazi Salute Shame

[ponderingturtle]

And your point is?

That moving around chunks of empires was not that strange a concept to people in that era. If it was viewed as a legitimate claim then I see no reason why it would have to be viewed as that big a deal.

In hindsight sure, but at the time I don't know.

 

[fleabeetle]

Do you really think that they would have all been jailed? For what? These were famous footballers - the darlings of the nation.

Lots of people have been put in far worse positions with actual real threats to themselves and have not taken the cowards way out. Do not imply that I (ETA: or anyone else who criticizes spineless oafs) have always been at a safe distance.

Didn't mean to come across as nasty -- this thing a bit of a pet peeve of mine (I being myself, a fairly spineless oaf, as such characters go). I tend rather to take to heart, "let him who is without sin, cast the first stone" -- though that comes from a source seemingly regarded with contempt, by the majority of folk on JREF.

 

[Ian Osborne]

I tend rather to take to heart, "let him who is without sin, cast the first stone" -- though that comes from a source seemingly regarded with contempt, by the majority of folk on JREF.

[derail]As sceptics, we'd say the maxim should be judged on its merits rather than accepted - or indeed dismissed - simply because it's in the Bible. [/derail]

 

[I Ratant]

Do you really think that a bunch of enraged members of the nation's heroic football team would not be quoted in the papers??
I dare say there were many interviews of who thought what when what goal was scored - not to mention dramatic recounting of the game in the words of many of the players.
The bums were silent when it came to the important things.

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Would the world-renowed reserved Englishman do more than pout "It's not cricket, old chap" in protest, way back when?

 

[fleabeetle]

[derail]As sceptics, we'd say the maxim should be judged on its merits rather than accepted - or indeed dismissed - simply because it's in the Bible. [/derail]

I concur -- just, people are human, with human biases and frailties, earnestly though they may try to be critical-thinking and impartial: I see something of a tendency on JREF (obviously, not always or universally), to automatic scorn and enmity toward anything from a Christian source.

 

[Ocelot]

I concur -- just, people are human, with human biases and frailties, earnestly though they may try to be critical-thinking and impartial: I see something of a tendency on JREF (obviously, not always or universally), to automatic scorn and enmity toward anything from a Christian source.

Not just Christian Sources, there's a lot of scorn an enmity going on. I'd like to say only towards duboius sources but I can't back that up.