You already changed the topic by bringing Jesse Owens into the discussion. So you are claiming that Hitler shook hands with Owens after he got won an event? Evidence to support your claim?
Ranb
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Nazi Master Race Breeding Program using "Aryan" Studs
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You already changed the topic by bringing Jesse Owens into the discussion. So you are claiming that Hitler shook hands with Owens after he got won an event? Evidence to support your claim?
Ranb
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So someone made up stuff to discredit the nazis, 'cos they were such nice people otherwise?
...Needn't have bothered really.
...Needn't have bothered really.
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You can also do your own research. It's not like you disagree that Lebensborn existed and what it entailed.
ETA:
- did you like the music?
- does Anni-Frid look Aryan to you?
Try to find the documentary "Norway's Nazi Secret".
Have a look at the following article -
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/6008196/Adolf-Hitler-did-shake-hands-with-Jesse-Owens.html
Owens never publicly claimed to have met Hitler or shook his hand, just waved to him after winning an event. Siegfried Mischner on the other hand suppresses his own story on Owens shaking hands with Hitler only to change his mind later. Any reason why his story is any more believable now compared to what he wrote years ago?
What is your stance on this? Got any reason to not believe Owens?
Ranb
What is your stance on this? Got any reason to not believe Owens?
Ranb
The Lebensborn program never took off as it was intended.
The idea was that Lebensborn should encourage but not force "racially suitable" people to bred, even out of marriage. SS-Officers were encouraged to "sow their seed" with "Aryan" girls but it seems the idea was mostly scoffed at (like much of the really weird occult stuff Himmler was endeared to).
A service offered by the Lebensborn was a secret and anonymous childbirth and offering a kind of adoption service if the mother did not want the child.
Polish, Hungarian and other children of the occupied territories that looked sufficiently similar to the racial ideal of Nazism were robbed from their parents and also offered for adoption via the Lebensborn.
So no forced breeding but still a sick institution.
The idea was that Lebensborn should encourage but not force "racially suitable" people to bred, even out of marriage. SS-Officers were encouraged to "sow their seed" with "Aryan" girls but it seems the idea was mostly scoffed at (like much of the really weird occult stuff Himmler was endeared to).
A service offered by the Lebensborn was a secret and anonymous childbirth and offering a kind of adoption service if the mother did not want the child.
Polish, Hungarian and other children of the occupied territories that looked sufficiently similar to the racial ideal of Nazism were robbed from their parents and also offered for adoption via the Lebensborn.
So no forced breeding but still a sick institution.
This isn't what the US Holocaust Memorial Museum website said about the program. I offered a source. You don't offer any source. The program was primarily for the children of SS men who had died in battle.
Please offer a source for that.
Well, as I'm not allowed to post URLs I'm unable to give you the exact articles.
A lot comes from the German Wikipedia article about the Lebensborn and its source links. Among them is an BB article that mentions the intended "Norwegian fraternisation" of SS-Officers.
Edit: And actually both my summarising and the quote from the USHMM run along similar lines. The children out of wedlock angle was what I hinted at with the secret and anonymous childbirth. It was to remove the social stigma. But it still ran contrary to the social mores of the time.
The telegraph.co.uk site has an article about a child that was robbed under the auspice of the Lebensborn program. You can easily find this and other articles via the search term lebensborn there.
If you search on google with the terms lebensborn and aryanisation you should find a summary of the nuernberg followup trials that also has a paragraph about the Lebensborn and its place in the aryanisation machinery.
A lot comes from the German Wikipedia article about the Lebensborn and its source links. Among them is an BB article that mentions the intended "Norwegian fraternisation" of SS-Officers.
Edit: And actually both my summarising and the quote from the USHMM run along similar lines. The children out of wedlock angle was what I hinted at with the secret and anonymous childbirth. It was to remove the social stigma. But it still ran contrary to the social mores of the time.
The telegraph.co.uk site has an article about a child that was robbed under the auspice of the Lebensborn program. You can easily find this and other articles via the search term lebensborn there.
If you search on google with the terms lebensborn and aryanisation you should find a summary of the nuernberg followup trials that also has a paragraph about the Lebensborn and its place in the aryanisation machinery.
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