Naudet Documentary On Google Video

[JimBenArm]

Of course they would have. Jules would have centered the top 30% of the north tower so that he wouldn't miss MoneyShot I. Correct?

Well, it's obvious that you haven't watched the movie either. Don't you skeptics ever do your homework?

After the first 10 or 20 coincidences in this film it becomes quite clear.

Bill, I also noticed that when Jules first arrives at the north tower he claims there are people on fire. You can hear a woman screaming as he's entering the building. Truly a poor fabrication because once inside, the screaming is nowhere to be heard, the fireman greeting them at the door isn't over to help 'put them out', and there isn't even a wisp of smoke in the air. Funnier still, moments later when Jules pans around the lobby there isn't any smoke, no bodies, and the made up ruse continues.

Yes, very poor fabrication.

Oh, you meant the excellent documentation of the horrific events of that day, not your pathetic attempt at a conspiracy?

Never mind. Carry on with your delusions. Sorry to interrupt.

 

[KreeL]

You find it odd that a professional cameraman got a good shot?

Jules admits at the beginning of the 'odor of gas' call that he's only been using the camera for two weeks. He is hardly, by self admission, a 'professional cameraman'. Yet he makes the first strike capture of the plane impact child's play. He's a liar every step of the way.

This also proves that you haven't watched the video in a while either. How can you discuss something that you can't remember?

edited to add that Gedeon makes it to the other side of the towers, instead of trying to find his 'brother', and WAITS for the second strike. Interesting. Who told him when that would be, and where?

 

[EventHorizon]

Yet he makes the first strike capture of the plane impact child's play.

Yeah, because it's extremely difficult to hear an unusual noise and then instinctively point a camera in the direction of said noise. I don't even think Spielburg could have pulled off such an incredible piece of film making.




Just when you think 9/11 Truth can't get any crazier or more sickening. I'm glad I'm able to laugh at this kind of absurdity otherwise I think I might go crazy.

 

[332nd]

Jules admits at the beginning of the 'odor of gas' call that he's only been using the camera for two weeks. He is hardly, by self admission, a 'professional cameraman'. Yet he makes the first strike capture of the plane impact child's play. He's a liar every step of the way.

This also proves that you haven't watched the video in a while either. How can you discuss something that you can't remember?

Yeah, no way a cameraman would ever use a new camera! The one he used when he (and his brother) at Tisch would be the only camera he used ever ever...

edited to add that Gedeon makes it to the other side of the towers, instead of trying to find his 'brother', and WAITS for the second strike. Interesting. Who told him when that would be, and where?

Right! No point it getting extra footage on a Doc about fire fighters when when a HUGE building is on fire.

 

[dtugg]

Are you a disinfo agent, kreel? If so, job well done! You are doing a spectacular job of making twoofers look bad. Better than any debunker ever could. If not....well you need serious help, and I'm surprised that your family hasn't had you committed yet. Or maybe they have and they have the Internet at your facility?

 

[ktesibios]

Didn't Moon Hoax twinkies habitually pull this same "I can tell by their facial expressions that the astronauts are all lying" kind of crap?

One of the joys of becoming a cranky, constipated old man is that my eyes aren't what they used to be. For one brief moment I thought the thread title was "Nudist documentary on Google Video".

 

[KreeL]

Yeah, because it's extremely difficult to hear an unusual noise and then instinctively point a camera in the direction of said noise. I don't even think Spielburg could have pulled off such an incredible piece of film making.

Sounds easy enough to you? Ever try it? Consider you have a few seconds of opportunity, have to work the camera back to center, and zoom. Oh yeah, you have no idea what you are posting about. Obviously you haven't watched the movie either.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Didn't Moon Hoax twinkies habitually pull this same "I can tell by their facial expressions that the astronauts are all lying" kind of crap?

One of the joys of becoming a cranky, constipated old man is that my eyes aren't what they used to be. For one brief moment I thought the thread title was "Nudist documentary on Google Video".

Which explains the click-through from you.

 

[alienentity]

Of course they would have. Jules would have centered the top 30% of the north tower so that he wouldn't miss MoneyShot I. Correct?

Well, it's obvious that you haven't watched the movie either. Don't you skeptics ever do your homework?

After the first 10 or 20 coincidences in this film it becomes quite clear.

Bill, I also noticed that when Jules first arrives at the north tower he claims there are people on fire. You can hear a woman screaming as he's entering the building. Truly a poor fabrication because once inside, the screaming is nowhere to be heard, the fireman greeting them at the door isn't over to help 'put them out', and there isn't even a wisp of smoke in the air. Funnier still, moments later when Jules pans around the lobby there isn't any smoke, no bodies, and the made up ruse continues.

Excuse me but I have to introduce you to some facts before you get carried away.
First, the damage and explosions in the lobby and subbasement levels are well documented by numerous witnesses. For example 'The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser'
Are all those witnesses in on the conspiracy too? Don't go there or you make yourself look like a lunatic.

Also, consider Mike Pecoraro, who was is the 6th subbasement working. A coworker noticed the lights flicker. He says there were reports (by coworkers) of the building shaking and a large explosion. Soon after 'the room they were working in began to fill with a white smoke. “We smelled kerosene,” Mike recalled, “I was thinking maybe a car fire was upstairs”
They then tried to get to the lobby and described a lot of damage 'As they ascended to the B Level, one floor above, they were astonished to see a steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds, wrinkled up “like a piece of aluminum foil” and lying on the floor.' etc. and so it goes.

All of this testimony is PERFECTLY consistent with the other observations, including jet-fuel spilling into elevator shafts, fireballs and explosions reported etc...

It is your denial of these facts which is in error. Your attempt to discredit the Naudet video and its makers with such absence of intelligence is really pathetic.
I wonder if you'd recognize a simple fact if it hit you over the head. I doubt it.

I have to conclude that you have a mental deficiency of some kind in order to hold the beliefs you do. You do not seem to have the capacity to read and understand eyewitness reports and construct a mental picture of the scene.

I can't help you with that problem. Sorry. Just wanted to counter the infantile claims you're making.


(incidentally, other truthers use the eyewitness descriptions of explosions to argue that there were high explosives in the basement. Of course, this is yet another misunderstanding of the events, as the explosions FOLLOWED the plane impacts and had known causes, well documented. You'd think that a smell of kerosine would be a tip-off that jet fuel had made it down there, but this seems to escape truthers, who prefer more exotic and evidence-free explanations)

 

[alienentity]

Kreel, I have a cognitive test for you:

Which one of these witnesses is lying?
1) Barry Jennings, who reported an explosion in WTC7 supposedly before the first tower collapse
2) William Rodriguez, who reported explosions in the basement supposedly before the plane impact
3) Mike Pecoraro, who reported explosions and smoke in the basement and elsewhere

Someone must be lying, right? Tell us which one(s) and why, if you can. If they're NOT lying, then the Naudet brothers must be correct, since the documentary reports fire damage in the lobby.

Hint: there are other possible answers as well. But I won't tell you what they are yet. Try to figure it out on your own.

 

[alienentity]

btw, further clear video evidence from the Naudet clip is seen when they first enter the lobby - at first I didn't understand what the features were, but now I do - huge sections of the stone facade of the lobby have been blown off the wall, leaving the blobs of adhesive behind.

If this isn't indication of an explosion, then what is? If Jules chose not to film burned people then that was his decision to make.

OK, here's some testimony of burned people, just to put the final nail in Kreel's coffin.

'Firefighter John Morabito of ladder 10, which is just 200 yards from the north tower.
“Just inside the front entrance, Morabito found two victims of the fireball. A man, already dead, was pushed against a wall, his clothes gone, his eyeglasses blackened, his tongue lying on the floor next to him. The other was a woman, with no clothes, her hair burned off, her eyes sealed.'
'The woman, she sat up. I’m yelling to her, ‘Don’t worry, we’re going to help you,’” Morabito said. “She sat up and was trying to talk, but her throat had closed up. She died right there.'

'Mercedes Rivera: I saw a burned woman in a sitting position in the lobby, as if she was still typing behind a desk.... She was already dead.'

'Dave Bobbitt, Port Authority Operations
"It was quite hectic, and we did what we could to stay in contact with the elevator passengers while helping to direct other people out of the building and direct firemen to the stairs and the elevators," Bobbitt remarked. "When entering the North Tower, we saw the marble on the walls was severely cracked, and Riccardelli told everyone to stay back from the walls. Don (Parente) noticed that the doors of elevators number 6 and 7 had been blown out." –Courage Above and Beyond the Call of Duty: A Report of the September 11, 2001 Experiences of Port Authority Engineers at the World Trade Center'


http://911stories.googlepages.com/insidethenorthtower:witnessaccounts,lobb


So, in conclusion, Kreel, please shut up. For everybody's sake. Just zip it.

 

[stateofgrace]

As you say it is all subjective and nothing can be proven from it. But I am happy to put my observations out there for all to see and allow them to be judged on their own merits.

Bill, please allow me to lay to rest any doubt you may have about the merit of your observations. In Crazytown they may have some degree of merit. Here on planet earth they range between almost zero and absolute zero.

 

[Thunder]

2) William Rodriguez, who reported explosions in the basement supposedly before the plane impact

please tell us how Mr. Rodriguez could POSSIBLY know that the "explosions" happened.....before....the plane impact.

Did he have a tv monitor hooked up watching the exterior of the building? did he have a telepathic link with the pilot of the plane?

please tell us how he could have possible done this amazing feat of X-Men like power.

 

[332nd]

Didn't Moon Hoax twinkies habitually pull this same "I can tell by their facial expressions that the astronauts are all lying" kind of crap?

I hate to admit it but I kinda like it when they pull that type of stuff out of their seats because I get to weigh in with my theatre expertise.

One of the joys of becoming a cranky, constipated old man is that my eyes aren't what they used to be. For one brief moment I thought the thread title was "Nudist documentary on Google Video".

FWIW I'm still youngish and I do that all the time when I'm drunk.

 

[alienentity]

please tell us how Mr. Rodriguez could POSSIBLY know that the "explosions" happened.....before....the plane impact.

Did he have a tv monitor hooked up watching the exterior of the building? did he have a telepathic link with the pilot of the plane?

please tell us how he could have possible done this amazing feat of X-Men like power.

Perhaps he shares Bill Smith's psychic abilities.

I directed those leading and somewhat misleading statements to Kreel as a test. I doubt he can sort out the issues in his mind.

You clearly can. That's why you're not a raging twoofer I guess.

 

[BasqueArch]

Yes I agree Kreel- the Naudet bothers were Shills.

In this video note the way the Naudet brother gets WTC2 pretty much centre screen . Even when the jet starts to roar behind and above him he is not distracted from his rapt filming of the blank undamaged but momentarily to be struck face of WTC2. Watch the camera suddenly go rock-steady in the critical moments.I find this shot HIGHLY suspect. He clearly KNEW where the jet was going to hit.

Whatever Bush paid the Naudet shills for this, he got his money's worth.

Picture this.

Naudet is sent to film convincing official action from inside one of the towers, one of which will collapse first, killing thousands.

"... I'm late" he thinks, as he runs towards the towers.
... did Bush say Tower One or Two.
" he mentioned north ..."

The towers are 100 feet apart.

"...I think it's the one on the left."
and enters behind a crowd of firemen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NzSxSUb0Kk

 

[apathoid]

You mean like a 'SuperTruther' ?

Thank you, thank you...thank you very much. lol

It wasn't a compliment bill.

 

[KreeL]

I didn't mean to miss your question, Bill. The frames you are speaking of is the insert of the fireball AFTER Gedeon drops his camera back down after MoneyShot II. Obviously he didn't film it, so there must have been at least one other videographer walking around with the Naudets. Most likely, one each, just in case the Naudets missed something. There's a couple shots from inside the tower by Jules that show rapid edits with different viewpoints/angles.

 

[TJM]

I didn't mean to miss your question, Bill. The frames you are speaking of is the insert of the fireball AFTER Gedeon drops his camera back down after MoneyShot II. Obviously he didn't film it, so there must have been at least one other videographer walking around with the Naudets. Most likely, one each, just in case the Naudets missed something. There's a couple shots from inside the tower by Jules that show rapid edits with different viewpoints/angles.

You mean the dastardly film makers also have the capability of editing their work??!11? Say it ain't so!

 

[stateofgrace]

I didn't mean to miss your question, Bill. The frames you are speaking of is the insert of the fireball AFTER Gedeon drops his camera back down after MoneyShot II. Obviously he didn't film it, so there must have been at least one other videographer walking around with the Naudets. Most likely, one each, just in case the Naudets missed something. There's a couple shots from inside the tower by Jules that show rapid edits with different viewpoints/angles.

And ?