NASA's foremost mission? Improve relations with Muslims.

SG, I think I see what you are saying, but the funding in that article is really just one way. NASA is using other organizations to get certain jobs done, and those organizations are paid to provide those services. You really can't "invest" in NASA like some private company. You also can't claim proprietary ownership of anything that is a product of your work for NASA. Any useful technology coming out of the work is public (or at least government) property. Most businesses aren't going to invest in technology that they won't really own in the end.
 
Contracted services can also be partnerships in joint ventures. What I'm saying in terms of funding NASA is that conceivably private corporations could benefit from funding NASA research in public-private partnerships.
You're saying this because you have no idea how NASA operates.

In fact the reverse is true: NASA advances the state of the art by setting hard goals in aerospace technology, and then funding the R&D efforts of one or more private contractors who set out to attain those goals. The contractors then reap a profit when they subsequently commercialize the know-how they gained on the government dime.

While many of these contractors undoubtedly put in their own money (thus creating the "partnerships in joint ventures" that you mentioned), it's always substantially less than the amount of money they'd have to spend on R&D if the government, through NASA, wasn't pitching in.
 
You're saying this because you have no idea how NASA operates.

In fact the reverse is true: NASA advances the state of the art by setting hard goals in aerospace technology, and then funding the R&D efforts of one or more private contractors who set out to attain those goals. The contractors then reap a profit when they subsequently commercialize the know-how they gained on the government dime.

While many of these contractors undoubtedly put in their own money (thus creating the "partnerships in joint ventures" that you mentioned), it's always substantially less than the amount of money they'd have to spend on R&D if the government, through NASA, wasn't pitching in.
You are missing the whole point that the thread is about implementing changes in the agency.
 
SG, I think I see what you are saying, but the funding in that article is really just one way. NASA is using other organizations to get certain jobs done, and those organizations are paid to provide those services. You really can't "invest" in NASA like some private company. You also can't claim proprietary ownership of anything that is a product of your work for NASA. Any useful technology coming out of the work is public (or at least government) property. Most businesses aren't going to invest in technology that they won't really own in the end.
I could have spent more time looking for more links on the subject but that also wasn't the point. The point was just showing Zig's absolutism was wrong in the statement, "The only time companies really want to knock on NASA"s door is when they hope to sell something to NASA, and that isn't about to happen with any Arab companies.....""

This kind of attitude is the same as the one that sparked the thread suggesting there is only one way to interact on the international scene, wave our big stick. Are we, as a nation, unable to think outside that box?
 
Here, try these links (which to me merely support an obvious point):

NASA to Advance ISS Research Technologies through Public-Private Partnerships

Research Partnerships and Flight Support
OVERVIEW
PENDING EXPLORATION REPLANNING. The Research Partnerships and Flight Supports (RPFS) theme is currently composed of several sections that directly contribute to many objectives of the NASA mission: Space Product Development (SPD), Research Partnership Centers (formerly known as Commercial Space Centers), Multi-User Systems and Support (MUSS), and the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer (AMS). The Space Product Development and the Research Partnership Centers will further NASA's mission by establishing industry-university-government partnerships making use of NASA assets, academic expertise and industry market knowledge and investment. The SPD and RPC programs are being realigned such that all activities contribute directly to the Agency mission while simultaneously providing industry researchers an access to conduct space-based experimentation they deem necessary to advance applications on earth. The dual-use philosophy allows both industry and NASA to benefit from the activities with industry and NASA sharing the costs. (Note: RPFS will be conducting a major review of priorities to ensure alignment of activities with the new Exploration vision. Some of the specific activities described here may change.)
The RPFS theme also includes the cross-cutting functions of Multi-User Systems & Support (MUSS), which encompasses the multi-use hardware development projects, and the overall ISS Shuttle, Progress, and Soyuz payload integration, ground processing, and operations support.
Finally, the RPFS theme currently includes integration responsibilities for the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer (AMS), a major high-energy space particle physics experiment planned for the ISS with the U. S. Department of Energy.
RELEVANCE
The SPD program provides research partners with the capabilities to pursue product lines with dual purpose applications which include improving NASA spacecraft and commercial aircraft safety, improving human health in space and on Earth, creating enabling technologies for exploration and development of space, and supporting the Biological and Physical Research Enterprise (BPRE) strategic and fundamental research goals (see Annual Performance Goal 5RPFS2) and ensuring the safety of our planet. MUSS provides end-to-end payload integration processing from initial manifesting; it provides engineering integration, training, mission integration, ground testing, on-orbit operations, and finally return of the experiment to the Principle Investigator for the ISS. MUSS develops and sustains multi-use hardware for Payload/Principle Investigators. AMS will study the origin of the Universe, and in particular, search for mysterious forms of matter such as anti-matter, dark matter, and strange matter, if existing.
 
You are missing the whole point that the thread is about implementing changes in the agency.
I'm pretty sure the whole point of the thread is that the head of NASA said in public that perhaps NASA's most important mission today is outreach to Muslim nations, and that this particular change in the agency struck a lot of people as being incredibly stupid and wrong.

Besides, I was responding specifically to specific statements you made, statements about how NASA works. I don't see how disputing your claims about how NASA works can possibly be off topic to your claims about how NASA works.
 
Calling Fox News "Faux News" is every bit as sophisticated as calling Skeptic Ginger "Septic Ginger."
 
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