Nader supports Bush

[Cleon]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nader supports Bush

To the poster that said he isn't a Green Party member, you're wrong. he is not just a member. He is their 'lightning rod' spokesmen.

Well, you can repeat it if you like, but the fact is, he's not a Green Party member. Never has been.

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/7515449.htm

http://csf.colorado.edu/forums/consbio/2001/msg00195.html

Actually, you could just save yourself some time and Google "ralph nader" "not a green party member".

What Nader's been trying to do is break the two-party system. And while I think his politics are rather mediocre, I support him in that. To those who claim that Nader cost Gore the election, I call BS.Gore lost the election for Gore. He lost it because he was an apolitical idiot who was incapable of holding any sort of ideas of his own.

It never ceases to amaze me how people complain that Nader steals the elections from the Democrats, but you never hear about people complaining about Harry Browne. Though, to their credit, the RNC *did* make a stink about Perot.

As someone once said, I'd rather vote for what I want and not get it than vote for what I don't want and get it. Stop this two-party horse$#!^.

 

[WildCat]

Usually when a person runs for president who knows he has no chance to win, I can only conclude they have some other goal in mind.

Well for one it will greatly increase the amount of $$ you get for speeches.

Nothing short of a Bush assasination will unseat him next term.

 

[Clancie]

WildCat,

That wouldn't make any difference at all, except that Ashcroft would turn the US into a police state ASAP. It's not like Bush is a great leader of a group of brilliant, ideologically independent appointees and staff. They're all cut from exactly the same philosophical cloak...some even worse than he is.

If the economy gets worse...the war drags on...people are more fearful of terrorism.....maybe a Dem -will- get elected. (Of course, if the nominee is Dean, as Bush wants, it's certain to be four more -increasingly awful- years ahead....<sigh>.....)

 

[Grammatron]

WildCat,

That wouldn't make any difference at all, except that Ashcroft would turn the US into a police state ASAP. It's not like Bush is a great leader of a group of brilliant, ideologically independent appointees and staff. They're all cut from exactly the same philosophical cloak...some even worse than he is.

If the economy gets worse...the war drags on...people are more fearful of terrorism.....maybe a Dem -will- get elected. (Of course, if the nominee is Dean, as Bush wants, it's certain to be four more -increasingly awful- years ahead....<sigh>.....)

You honestly believe that Ashcroft would go above SCOTUS and the entire legislature and most of the people in the USA?

 

[American]

Free country. If he was to run independant, who has a right to be mad at him?

 

[peptoabysmal]

I think this means he thinks whoever comes out of the democrat primaries will be weak going into the election. He has a point. Dean is the only candidate with real momentum and its based on his wide-eyed "believers" and his straight talkin hokum.

I think he is calculating that there is a chance to usurp the position of the challenger to Bush in this next election.

You mean this straight talkin' hokum?
Dean Rebuked for Statement Implying Brother Served in Military

 

[Cleon]

You honestly believe that Ashcroft would go above SCOTUS and the entire legislature and most of the people in the USA?

Honestly, I believe Ashcroft would start throwing people into ovens if he thought God told him it was a good idea.

 

[rikzilla]

Like the Dems don't already have enough problems.

Makes me feel kind of sorry for the DLC.

Not really.

That bears repeating: NOT REALLY!

I feel that the Dems have curried the intermittent favor of the fickle left. They deserve to lose voters to every wacko Nader, LaRouche,..etc...candidate that creeps out of the woodwork.

Leftist politics is like a self cleaning oven....left alone, it will remove itself from contention.

-z

 

[daenku32]

Well, he decided not to run..

But, I would recommend that he would be on the ballot on only those states that will definately go to Republicans, regardless of his run. That way he could receive maximum amount of votes and possibly make him eligible for federal campaign funds. And do so without risking the loss of a Democrat canditate..

At least that way 30% of votes cast in the election would actually mean something.

If you can't defeat the electoral college system, use it for you advantage!

 

[daenku32]

Leftist politics is like a self cleaning oven....left alone, it will remove itself from contention.

-z [/B]

Yeah, and Rightist politics will end up as a Nazi Dictatorship, when left alone.

 

[BTox]

Yeah, and Rightist politics will end up as a Nazi Dictatorship, when left alone.

Sure...

 

[daenku32]

Sure...

Just following his level of intellectual thinking. Don't want to cause a disturbance.

 

[aerocontrols]

Yeah, and Rightist politics will end up as a Nazi Dictatorship, when left alone.

Of all the Nazi dictatorships that ever existed, 0 of 1 were 'left alone' when being developed.

 

[rikzilla]

Yeah, and Rightist politics will end up as a Nazi Dictatorship, when left alone.

oops! thread over! Nazi reference detected!!!

 

[Ladewig]

Cleon
To those who claim that Nader cost Gore the election, I call BS.Gore lost the election for Gore. He lost it because he was an apolitical idiot who was incapable of holding any sort of ideas of his own.

I have to agree with Cleon. In the second presidential debate, Gore and Bush agreed on 37 different issues.

Jocko
Rather than support a party that leans his way, i.e., the Democrats, he insists on pushing a pure agenda of anti-business quasi-socialism.

I don't believe that the Democrats lean towards Nader's goals. Clinton's was the first administration on over 20 years that did not demand that automakers increase gas mileage. Clinton legislated a reduction in arsenic levels in drinking water in the last 48 hours of his term.

 

[Zero]

Re: Re: Nader supports Bush

Oh, I can think of a reason. Nader supports Nader.

That is to say, he's an aspiring megalomaniac who will stop at nothing to preserve his name in the history books, even if it's just in the role of gand bull-moose of spoilers. Rather than support a party that leans his way, i.e., the Democrats, he insists on pushing a pure agenda of anti-business quasi-socialism.

He has no concept of how politics work. Rather than get a quarter of what he claims to want, he'll get nothing and like it. In fact, less than nothing, since his efforts make it less likely that Bush will lose (which probably wouldn't happen at this point, Nader or no Nader).

Thank heaven he's so ugly. It scares me to think what he'd be capable of if he had a shred of real charisma or appeal.

Jeez...Nader is a unifier, isn't he? EVERYONE hates him...and like you said, he LIKES it!!

 

[Grammatron]

Honestly, I believe Ashcroft would start throwing people into ovens if he thought God told him it was a good idea.

You know, I do believe you'd kill him if you had a chance.

 

[Zero]

You know, I do believe you'd kill him if you had a chance.

No need to kill him, just post pictures of him getting to know a donkey, in the Biblical sense, and he'd kill himself.

 

[Cleon]

You know, I do believe you'd kill him if you had a chance.

No, I'm against the death penalty.

The only exception I make is for clueless idiots who get an SUV too big for them to handle and yes, have to talk on the phone while they drive in case they get the wrong brand of stuffing for tomorrow's dinner ARRGGGHHH.

[Can you tell I was just out on my bike and had one-too-many close calls?]

 

[Grammatron]

No, I'm against the death penalty.

The only exception I make is for clueless idiots who get an SUV too big for them to handle and yes, have to talk on the phone while they drive in case they get the wrong brand of stuffing for tomorrow's dinner ARRGGGHHH.

[Can you tell I was just out on my bike and had one-too-many close calls?]

Listen that was a very important phone call, can I help it that there are some people who think that they are the most visible thing on the road even though they are smaller and move unlike any other car?