My prediction RE: Bachmann

[Roadtoad]

Sometimes it can be;

http://birdsoftheair.blogspot.com/2010/10/political-speech.html

I remember reading it the first time when it originally came out. I sat there with a dictionary all afternoon, trying to get through it all.

That was when I started falling in love with writing.

 

[BobTheDonkey]

Sometimes it can be;

http://birdsoftheair.blogspot.com/2010/10/political-speech.html

So it's smearing because people don't know what words mean?

I think we have different definitions of "smear"...

 

[Roadtoad]

A few things to consider, and I hope you'll forgive me for this...

In my business, the ethos is simple: You don't mess with another man's wife, you don't mess with another man's money, you don't mess with another man's rig, and you don't mess with another man's dog. It boils down to respect.

In reading about Bachmann, there are reasons I don't want to vote for her. One of these, (not the worst offense), is her devotion to Young Earth Creationism. It has repeatedly been shown to be pseudoscience, a waste of educational resources even as a philosophical movement, and it's proponents have been shown to be frauds, not only intellectually, but in a variety of other ways.

Considering how evolutionary science impacts a number of other disciplines, I find Bachmann's assertions regarding YEC to be disturbing at best. As a Type II diabetic, I rely on people with a solid understanding of ES in order to stay healthy. Without that, I'm on a slow boat south, and not a pleasant one, either. I've grown very attached to my extremities, and would prefer to keep them.

Does this mean that everything she says is a crock? I don't know. It's hard to get past the heat and flame of her "critics," high-fiving one another as they get in another dig. I might not vote for her, but to do everything possible to eliminate every piece of input she has regardless of its value strikes me as dishonest as hell.

This kind of thing is not unlike a situation I had with another driver. He was hell bent on making sure I had no say in anything the company did, until the point when I tried to warn him about a speed trap he was heading into. After getting shouted down over the squawk box, I finally turned the damned thing off, let him get his ticket for running 20 MPH over, (a felony in a commercial vehicle), and made my delivery on time. There might have been a lot I didn't know, but I've generally been open as to what that is. (For the record, most Republicans aren't.)

I did know a fellow driver was headed for a fall, and tried to warn him off. I don't work there anymore, and he isn't working at all.

I'm not ready to throw out everything -- baby, bathwater, tub, soap -- and I'd just as soon find out what else Bachmann has to say before I give up completely on her. What's of value should be added to the Republican platform, and hopefully, assuming they win, made policy. (With the current crop running, good luck with that.) What the Republican Party tends to include --and exclude -- in their platforms is telling. I'm often left thinking that what they're offering is little more than political porn: It's all mechanics and fantasy, but not how the real world works. And everyone seems to know it, except the 18-year-old playing pocket pull in the back of the theater.

As I've said before, I'm not voting for Palin for anything. The more I read of her, the less I like her, and the more I'm convinced she shouldn't have been elected to any office in the first place, you betcha! But the obscene antics of people I ought to be able to respect doesn't inspire me to vote for anyone who would run against Palin. If anything, if, say, Bill Maher were to come out in favor of one of Palin's opponents, I'd be more likely to vote third party.

See, this comes down to respect. I don't agree with either woman on a lot of issues, but I'm not willing to slap around those who support them, either. I'd rather talk with them, reason, and try to get to the root of why they're voting for Bachmann, Palin, or whomever. (On the other hand, if you're trying this with Sharon Angle of Nevada, forget it. People supported her because she wasn't Harry Reid. Neither am I, but that doesn't mean I should be in the Senate.) I'm not willing to play these games because I respect my fellow citizens, and would rather win them to reason.

In other words, Bachmann got there with the voters' approval. Someone likes her. Calling Bachmann an idiot instead of simply saying she's wrong is calling those who voted for her idiots. If I had voted for her, I don't think I'd appreciate that.

I'm not interested in hanging out with people I agree with all the time. What's the point? I'm disappointed that folks I occasionally send PMs to, telling them I'll be in their neck of the woods, aren't able to connect. I know we don't agree. That's the point.

But I'm really not interested in hanging out with people whose idea of political discourse is limited to calling Sarah Palin "Caribou Barbie." It was funny at the outset. Now, it's down to the same childish games I object to from my idiot brother-in-law. You're telling me that those who supported her, regardless of their reasons, are dolts. I don't accept that, and I resent it.

(Just a thought, though: Sarah, you titled your book Going Rogue. Yet in following up on how you do things, and what your political objectives are, you're even less of a rogue than John McCain. I might buy the "going rogue" bit if you'd have stood up to McCain and his assertion that the recent forest fires in Arizona were caused by illegal immigrants and demanded evidence, but since you didn't, I could wish you'd quit claiming you run counter to the stream. You don't.)

I sometimes wonder if someone as hate driven as Nancy Pelosi were to sit down and listen to why people support Bachmann, would she learn from the experience? Would she become a more effective leader? I look at what Gingrich did, how he handled the Speaker's position, and realize the only reason he held on as long as he did was because he eventually did hear out people like Richard Gephardt. It was late, but he did listen. Perhaps hearing someone out, and dealing not with the window dressing, but with the actual concerns of everyone else, the people they're supposed to serve, they might come to realize there are better ways to handle this.

Great fun to make jokes at the expense of Sarah Barracuda. But if that's the extent your campaign strategy, it sounds to me like you don't have anything really worth supporting.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

It's started with Marcus

Apparently he's setting off Gay-dars



http://chicago.gopride.com/news/art...ndidate-michele-bachmann-married-to-a-gay-man

 

[Alferd_Packer]

The funniest pundit one-liner:

"Michelle Bachmann thinks she's the only one who should be allowed to marry a gay man."

 

[fuelair]

^^^

Reminds me of the scene in "The Search For The Holy Grail" with the nuns.

"And then you shall administer a spanking!"

"Oh YES! A spanking!"

"And then you shall perform oral sex on all of us!"

Or something along those lines.

Actually: "And then the oral sex!"

 

[MaGZ]

Whatever she's done with foster kids...and it seems from what I've read to be pretty admirable... her ideas are nutty, and she believes -- apparently -- that she's been called by god to do this. That alone is worth opposing her. The kids should be left out of this -- like what the Obamas as opposed to the Palins -- have tried to do. Minimal coverage.

She really is nuts. She claims to be Jewish. Apparently after high school graduation she lived on a kibbutz in Israel and went thru some sort of mind conditioning. I guess she didn’t realize at the time this was a socialist collective farm copied from the ones in the Soviet Union.

She is running political commercials on WHT, the Christian Zionist network, at the end of the Israel news program.

 

[Roadtoad]

She really is nuts. She claims to be Jewish. Apparently after high school graduation she lived on a kibbutz in Israel and went thru some sort of mind conditioning. I guess she didn’t realize at the time this was a socialist collective farm copied from the ones in the Soviet Union.

She is running political commercials on WHT, the Christian Zionist network, at the end of the Israel news program.

And, wow, here you are, contributing some anti-semitic spam. Whodathunkit?

 

[Gene Alley]

And if that is what happens, I'll be sad.

I detest her, but I have some first AND second hand experience with troubled teens, and you can't imagine how hard that is.

Let's face it, people who have 23 foster children are usually pulling some kind of welfare bilk. I'm sure that the amount of money her and her husband collected from the "big government" that she rails against will be quite substantial.

She was also a lawyer for the IRS for years. I'm sure that'll go over real big with her hard core tea party supporters. I would be surprised if there are not several political operatives out there right now looking for some families and small bussnesses that Ms Bachman helped destroy while working for those bloodsuckers....I look forward to the mudslinging contest that will ensue if she gets close to the GOP nomination. What a show!!

 

[Tricky]

She really is nuts. She claims to be Jewish. Apparently after high school graduation she lived on a kibbutz in Israel and went thru some sort of mind conditioning. I guess she didn’t realize at the time this was a socialist collective farm copied from the ones in the Soviet Union.

She is running political commercials on WHT, the Christian Zionist network, at the end of the Israel news program.

If she were really serious about that, I might be tempted to vote for her. Unfortunately, it's likely to be BS.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Her husband's clinic's controversial "Pray away the Gay" treatment is recieving some very negative press

MSNBC

ABC

and typically, FOX spins the story to make Marcus the victim.