My philosphy on consciousness

[Soapy Sam]

Nobody watches the watcher.

The watcher is the result of the process of watching.

One problem with philosophising about the mind is that it's hard not to confuse input with output.
In fact, it may be literally impossible not to. That may be fundamental to the process.

In which case, we're better having a nice cup of tea and a lie down.

 

[Xetrov]

Thats all good and dandy, but I still find this sentence of yours to be a little strange:



That seems like the kind of thing only someone with experience in these matters would say.

If I am wrong then I apologize. We just get a LOT of hit-and-run, drive by, guerilla tactic crazy people that post here then run when they figure out how intelligent some of the peeps on this forum actually are. Your behavior just "fits the description," so to speak, but again, if I am wrong, then really, I apologize.

Call it empathy. I thought it was justified, since I just announced that I would (at least for a while) step back from this thread due to the amount of replies. It felt like a possibility that people would view that action in a wrong way and "backstab" me. I thought that would not be needed. I was merely honestly expressing myself being totally overwhelmed by the volume of replies, and if you know me, I never look for a fight, not even in words. Hence I tried to prevent it. And I have never doubted the intelligence of the people here, it was the exact reason I came here to post my ideas, and get critical feedback. Well, I got it, and I will have to take a long time before I can digest all of the feedback, and meanwhile there is just no way I can answer all those posts. And that's the truth of it, period. So no, I don't have experience in such "hit and run" tactics, and yes, appology accepted. Thanks.

ETA: I also realize that, skimming through all the replies again, there are just too many gaps in my knowledge to be able to answer all the questions and oversee the matter entirely (for example about artificial intelligence, and alternative ideas about neurons and consciousness). I would first have to dig into several authors and books before I could even begin to answer some of the questions and ideas posted in reply to my article. Since I set out to investigate my ideas in the first place, I think this is a good idea for me to start with. Thank you all for pointing me to this information.

 

[Belz...]

Some might argue that consciousness is an illusion. Basically this would come down to the idea that thought is really all there is. But humans can be self-aware, they can be conscious of consciousness.

Circular reasoning.

Most scientists would consider the idea that consciousness arises from the electric field in our brain to be at least a very good starting point in explaining it’s origin. There are however several arguments against this idea. A very strong one would be that consciousness seems to be totally unaffected by any changes in the electric field of the brain, caused by either internal or external influences.

Actually, there's a whole load of stuff that can modify your consciousness. Doesn't seem very independent to me.

 

[Belz...]

Yes you understood my argument well. From my reasoning and looking at the phenomenon of consciousness, I have concluded that there is no way that consciousness can arise from matter/energy.

And how did you reach that conclusion ?

So it has to be (somehow) a fundamental property of the universe.

Nonsensical.

You should show to me that this centre is somehow located in the brainstem, because as I showed, consciousness can still arise when the rest of one’s brain is temporally deactivated.

No, no, no. When the brian is not operating, there is no consciousness.

Basically this would come down to the idea that thought is really all there is.

I think you have it the other way around.

 

[Belz...]

You are so wrong. If you really knew me, you would be very ashamed. In your utter arrogance to judge me, you project all kinds of negative ideas onto me, that hold no truth whatsoever. I have so totally had it with this. I was thinking of hanging around here but this just closes the door for me.

Well, wasn't that terribly convenient, Dodger ?