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My HUGE problem with Wikileaks

Pardalis said:
Apologize to whom, and for what?
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Everyone, for threatening the foundations of a free society by celebrating the imprisonment of a hero that dared to defy the government. Celebrating someone rotting in jail because they released an unflattering video that was kept under wraps for PR reasons over a war? Yeah, that's a dangerous mentality...
 
Dr. Fascism said:
Everyone, for threatening the foundations of a free society by celebrating the imprisonment of a hero that dared to defy the government. Celebrating someone rotting in jail because they released an unflattering video that was kept under wraps for PR reasons over a war? Yeah, that's a dangerous mentality...
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how is releasing information that would compromise your nation's war effort against the Taliban heroic?

As for the latter, they were imprisoned because of breach of OPSEC and classified materials acts. Like it or not, whenever they released the documents that they were entrusted to keep safe and they went ahead anyway, they broke the law.
 
Dr. Fascism said:
Everyone, for threatening the foundations of a free society by celebrating the imprisonment of a hero that dared to defy the government. Celebrating someone rotting in jail because they released an unflattering video that was kept under wraps for PR reasons over a warbecause they broke the law and violated the rules and regulations they were sworn to uphold? Yeah, that's a dangerous mentality...
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ftfy...
 
What's heroic about occupying Afghanistan for almost a decade with no apparent benefit to anyone except war profiteers and Great Game players?
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Has anyone actually asked them, though?
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Yes, actually. Many times. For example:

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/a...nal-survey-poll-show-support/story?id=9511961
Critical from the U.S. perspective is that, despite poor views of its performance, 68 percent of Afghans continue to support the presence of U.S. forces in their country – and nearly as many, 61 percent, favor the coming surge of Western troops initiated by President Obama. But support for the surge drops to 42 percent in the South and East; support for the presence of U.S. forces also drops in these regions, and support for attacks on U.S. and NATO forces, while sharply down overall, remains much higher in the restive South.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2009/02_february/09/afghanistan.shtml
Sixty-three per cent support the presence of US forces – down from 71% in 2007 and 78% in 2006. Support for other foreign forces, including Britain, stands at 59%, down from 67% last year and 78% in 2006. There's an increase in the number of people who think foreign forces should start pulling out straight away – 21%, up from 14% last year (when the question addressed only US forces).
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Childlike Empress said:
Listen to this, especially the part from 12:50 onwards.
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there really needs to be a corollary to Scopie's law, as follows:

"In any discussion involving History, Politics or Current Events, citing Thirdworldtraveler, antiwar.com, Rense, Prison Planet, Globalresearch.ca, Infowars, Informationclearinghouse or the like as a credible source loses the argument immediately...

... and gets you laughed out of the room"
 
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