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My HUGE problem with Wikileaks

Dr. Fascism said:
Or more likely help kill public support for maintaining the war. Be honest, though--you don't really care about the civilian deaths, you're just irked that people are defying the government.
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Your mind reading skills suck.

I want this war to end, our men and women to come back home and Afghanistan to be self-sufficient, and Taliban-free.

What do you want?
 
Pardalis said:
Your mind reading skills suck.

I want this war to end, our men and women to come back home and Afghanistan to be self-sufficient, and Taliban-free.

What do you want?
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Well, if we're gonna go there then I'd like my very own pony.
 
So you want a pony, that's your answer?

No wonder I can't take you seriously, you won't even have the integrity to answer to a serious question.
 
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Dr. Fascism said:
I suspect it's because people here tend to have the brains to reject Uri Geller and homeopathy, so on and so forth, and want the world to contain some deus ex machina of justice to exist in the world to fight against and forbid those sorts of chicanery, so they imagine their fantasy ideal government as being in power, and for it to be effective, people would of course need to obey... and since it's the bringer of justice, to act against it is high treason. They seem mostly comfortable with the way things are in the world (and why wouldn't they? Most of them are rather well-to-do, middle-class types with families and decent jobs) and like our current system and just feel it needs some slight modifications. As someone here earlier stated, they think most of the laws are pretty good and just. And hey, a Democrat is in power, how cool is that?
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So if you are measuring the impact of this leak, you are of the opinion that the probable danger some afghan snitches encounter outweights the insights that the world community gets into the motivation and practices of this war?
 
Ben, you've read my post. LashL censored it and i'm not going to take it. I'll repost it as long as i get banned. There's nothing against the forum rules in it.

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Removed breach of Rule 12, again. Reposting something that has already been removed as a breach of the MA is itself a breach of the Membership Agreement, and it is not really something that you ought to continue, Childlike Empress.
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This is getting tedious. Do not re-post content that has already been removed for breaching the MA.
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Childlike Empress said:
So if you are measuring the impact of this leak, you are of the opinion that the probable danger some afghan snitches encounter outweights the insights that the world community gets into the motivation and practices of this war?
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Well, apparently Assange did try to go to the DoD and Pentagon with "we're releasing them no matter what, help us protect innocent people" but they refused to cooperate.

I don't think it's a good thing but as far as I am aware they did make a good effort to hide names of informers and so on. It's certainly important that people realize what a sham this war is and that we're being fed propaganda to support it and other potential incursions in the Middle East. It's a shame that the United States government has placed people in Afghanistan (and Iraq) in harm's way. But again, I don't think most people complaining about this leak themselves really care about the civilians that might be affected. They sure aren't making much noise about the war itself and the innocent deaths it is causing, probably because they feel it's all worth it if it's in the name of global democracy. And they certainly don't support wikileaks because wikileaks is defying the (democratic) US government. I really don't think many of wikileaks' critics have room to talk, at all. Most of it appears to be rather authoritarian posturing, and I bet if this was done during the Bush era we'd see a lot more support of it.
 
Wikileaks schedule for 2010 as proclaimed is to engage the Mainstream Media, and this goal is overachieved by now. The system is working since 2007, the problem was that this information that is freely available doesn't generate news.

Removed the same re-posted moderated content yet again. Some people just never learn, apparently.
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Childlike Empress said:
Wkileaks schedule for 2010 as proclaimed is to engage the Mainstream Media, and this goal is overachieved by now. The system is working since 2007, the problem was that this information that is freely available doesn't generate news.
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OK, so this information is both "not news" and "too dangerous to be released" at the same time. I've seen you've taken the official government line; you're a commendable patriot and citizen, to be sure, but I'm not sure that's a very solid position to take.
 
This thread is being closed temporarily due to sustained and repeated disruptions by a particular member and will reopen once those matters are dealt with. Sincere apologies for the inconvenience to members genuinely interested in discussing the subject matter of the thread, and hopefully it will reopen before too long.
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Undesired Walrus said:
It seems Assange is being accused of rape and molestation:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11047025
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The accusations were already dropped: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/08/21/sweden.wikileaks.charge/index.html

Swedish authorities say they have revoked an arrest warrant that had alleged rape against the founder and editor of the whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks, Julian Assange.

Assange is "no longer wanted" and "is not suspected of rape," Chief Prosecutor Eva Finne said in a statement posted on the agency's official website Saturday. He is also no longer arrested in absentia, the statement said.
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