My First Ever Banning

[Architect]

Imagine a folk singer trying to perform in at a bar filled with redneck truck drivers from Texas and you'll get my impression of how easy it is to "dish it out here".

MM

In all fairness we don't see the kind of posts that the likes of Roxdog and PDoH post over in LC, but I wouldn't disagree that we have an unfortunate tendancy to jump all over CTers like props at a Rugby game. It would do us no harm to be a little more like BAUT sometimes.



But to be quite clear, I wouldn't tend to tar the likes of Gravy, Mackey, and so on with that kind of brush. These are guys who generally post detailed, substantive, and polite responses. It's just smart erses like me who need to calm down.

But moving back to an earlire point, my refernce earlier was to the Eurocode requirement for designs to now take additional cognisance of the risk of progressive collapse, and hence the underlying assumption that they too were either "duped" or part of the consipracy. Thoughts and comments, MM?

 

[Miragememories]

So no facts, just insults today? Shot down your speed problem, and you are back with no facts. Need more help finding correct answers?

Need to know how many mph 500 KIAS is? Spam man is back, what insults do we have today? Failed again, so insults are back? When did you first fall for the misinformation of 9/11 from the LC videos?

About LCF. There are a bunch of really dumb people posting there. Dylan leads the pack. You are one of the best posters to prove there are no facts used at LCF by the loyalist truthers. When I want to see real poor logic and misinformation I go look at some of the regular posters at LCF.

How many folks have you labeled as liars today beachnut?

I rarely see you do anything but post accusations.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

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So is your post an attempt to be banned by spam?

omg beachnut[/] has figured out how to punch in a word or two into Google!

The problem is..you have no idea what it is your cut and pasting!

I do!

MM

 

[beachnut]

Imagine a folk singer trying to perform in at a bar filled with redneck truck drivers from Texas and you'll get my impression of how easy it is to "dish it out here".

MM

Actually, a folk singer in a bar in Texas, where the "redneck" truck drivers would be a non issue. You watch too many movies. Truckers have a better understanding of the real world and are more diverse than your loyalist low IQ posters at LCF. I would expect such a bigoted post only from a low IQ person who has problems with facts. You must be kidding us.

 

[Corsair 115]

Well then it pretty much sounds like you've made up your mind.

In regards to the events of 9/11? Yes, I have. I've weighed the evidence and find claims of conspiracy without merit.

I'm glad I read your last post before I wasted my time giving you a considered response.

This is a curious response, given your willingness only a few short days ago to offer your comments quite easily. Now, when rebuttals to your points are made, rather than offer rebuttals to the rebuttals, you instead choose to do the equivalent of fleeing the field.

This says much about your ability to support your points in the face of counterpoints.

 

[Miragememories]

In all fairness we don't see the kind of posts that the likes of Roxdog and PDoH post over in LC, but I wouldn't disagree that we have an unfortunate tendancy to jump all over CTers like props at a Rugby game. It would do us no harm to be a little more like BAUT sometimes.



But to be quite clear, I wouldn't tend to tar the likes of Gravy, Mackey, and so on with that kind of brush. These are guys who generally post detailed, substantive, and polite responses. It's just smart erses like me who need to calm down.

But moving back to an earlire point, my refernce earlier was to the Eurocode requirement for designs to now take additional cognisance of the risk of progressive collapse, and hence the underlying assumption that they too were either "duped" or part of the consipracy. Thoughts and comments, MM?

Well Architect if everyone here could maintain the level of self discipline you exercise I might have more 'real' discussions.

Alas you are in the minority.

Getting to your point, I think it is only prudent that NIST reports be responded to and treated with respect by comparable agencies worldwide.

Unfortunately, NIST didn't follow through with a complete examination of the WTC 1 & 2 collapses. If they had, they might have been able to provide a lot more useful information other than you shouldn't fly Boeing 767-200's into suspension buildings.

As a footnote, I work in a building that is designed along the same lines as WTC 1 and 2. It's the south tower of two. It was also completed in 1973. So far, other tthan a few stairwell cracks on the 22nd floor, it looks like it might remain standing.

I'm sure alot of JREFer's are saying "damn" at that news.

MM

 

[Belz...]

I see little point. Your belief in the NIST report is total and you'll just continue to quote everything they say as fact.

Your alternative seems to be to discount every piece of document we have on the subject and start from scratch simply because the conclusion does not appeal to us.

How long do you intend on continuing this little war of straws ?

You know as well as I do and as Dr. Greening has experienced, that reports are not only created they are 'crafted'. If a foregone conclusion is in place, it's not an insurmountable problem for an agency like NIST to produce believable results that support said conclusion.

Speculation. Do you have any evidence that this is so ? Or are you simply showing your bias against their conclusion ?

Because it only succeeded in the most severe scenario, it only shows how much all numbers barely made it, lowering the probability that their conclusions were true.

That is nonsensical. No matter WHICH scenario was the "best fit", they had to pick one. The mere fact that it's the most severe, in this case, means nothing except that it's the "best fit". So what are you saying, here ?

The NIST report's 10,000 pages are designed to cover every angle with an explanation for everything, too often an explanation only justified because NIST judged it to be the best choice, all the time knowing their results had to satisfy a predetermined conclusion of collapse due to impact and fire damage.

Why do you have a problem with scientists determining which of the trials was the best fit to the situation ? What do you need from them ? Certainty ? Or lack thereof ? What answer could possibly satisfy you ? And no, that wasn't a rhetorical question. Please answer.

You seem to have reasonable intelligence.

I'm sure Mack will be delighted to hear from you that his years earning his PhD were not all for naught.

 

[Miragememories]

In regards to the events of 9/11? Yes, I have. I've weighed the evidence and find claims of conspiracy without merit.

This is a curious response, given your willingness only a few short days ago to offer your comments quite easily. Now, when rebuttals to your points are made, rather than offer rebuttals to the rebuttals, you instead choose to do the equivalent of fleeing the field.

This says much about your ability to support your points in the face of counterpoints.

Not at all.

Only a fool would waste time and energy on someone who is convinced of the invincibility of their conclusions.

I hope you are right.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

Actually, a folk singer in a bar in Texas, where the "redneck" truck drivers would be a non issue. You watch too many movies. Truckers have a better understanding of the real world and are more diverse than your loyalist low IQ posters at LCF. I would expect such a bigoted post only from a low IQ person who has problems with facts. You must be kidding us.

I'm sorry beachnut. I didn't realize you were a trucker.

MM

 

[Belz...]

Imagine a folk singer trying to perform in at a bar filled with redneck truck drivers from Texas and you'll get my impression of how easy it is to "dish it out here".

MM

That's my point. It's all about the packaging.

Sing them a country song and they should love it.

 

[beachnut]

omg beachnut[/] has figured out how to punch in a word or two into Google!

The problem is..you have no idea what it is your cut and pasting!

I do!

MM

No, an electrical and computer engineer, who cuts his own DVDs for his kids, and worked at AFWAL, does not know of video codec. Not me. Nope. Zip.

 

[Belz...]

But to be quite clear, I wouldn't tend to tar the likes of Gravy, Mackey, and so on with that kind of brush. These are guys who generally post detailed, substantive, and polite responses.

Unlike me, whose posts are generally composed of short, to-the-point sentences made up of more-or-less 100% pure contempt.

 

[Belz...]

As a footnote, I work in a building that is designed along the same lines as WTC 1 and 2. It's the south tower of two. It was also completed in 1973. So far, other tthan a few stairwell cracks on the 22nd floor, it looks like it might remain standing.

I'm sure alot of JREFer's are saying "damn" at that news.

And you accuse people here of having distasteful attitudes ?

I wasn't aware 1 WTC collapsed because of poor design. I always blamed the speeding 767 that rammed into it.

 

[beachnut]

I'm sorry beachnut. I didn't realize you were a trucker.

MM

I did not know you were a bigot. I have to assume you are of low education since you fall for the fraud that is 9/11 truth. I expect you may have much more potential than I ever had. When will you show it?

 

[Miragememories]

That is nonsensical. No matter WHICH scenario was the "best fit", they had to pick one. The mere fact that it's the most severe, in this case, means nothing except that it's the "best fit". So what are you saying, here ?

Why do you have a problem with scientists determining which of the trials was the best fit to the situation ? What do you need from them ? Certainty ? Or lack thereof ? What answer could possibly satisfy you ? And no, that wasn't a rhetorical question. Please answer.



I'm sure Mack will be delighted to hear from you that his years earning his PhD were not all for naught.

I really love you Belz. I do wish you would send me what you're smokin'..it must be great stuff.

NIST picked the one that worked. Is that so difficult to comprehend?

They decided that impact and fire collapsed the world's largest buildings and unfortunately for them it took their most severe case simulation to generate what appeared to be a collapse initiation...whoopee...break out the champagne!

When you push the edge of the envelope you should always ask yourself ..why?

Gee I thought Mack said he only had his Masters?

MM

 

[beachnut]

omg beachnut[/] has figured out how to punch in a word or two into Google!

The problem is..you have no idea what it is your cut and pasting!

I do!

MM

I was giving some information on your fact less post question. You asked a poor question. You did not include information on your own ideas or what it was. You still just insult instead of offering discussion on the codec, you failed to answer my question, I actually added some value to yours, go ahead let your insults flow, you can do it.

Show your true abilities to discuss, or will you…

But I was trying to put to DVD the things I can record on my Sony Vaio, but I am having problems finding compression software, you could post some help before you get banned.

 

[twinstead]

They decided that impact and fire collapsed the world's largest buildings and unfortunately for them it took their most severe case simulation to generate what appeared to be a collapse initiation...whoopee...break out the champagne!

And when an alternate theory is presented that has even half of the excruciating detail, spread out for all the world's experts to see, that they provided to explain exactly WHY they came to that conclusion I might pay attention.

 

[Architect]

Unlike me, whose posts are generally composed of short, to-the-point sentences made up of more-or-less 100% pure contempt.

You say it like it's a bad thing.....

 

[Miragememories]

I did not know you were a bigot. I have to assume you are of low education since you fall for the fraud that is 9/11 truth. I expect you may have much more potential than I ever had. When will you show it?

Sorry beachnut. I have nothing against truckers. My brother-in-law is a trucker and I know he is an intelligent individual.

You on the other hand just like to toss out words and let them land wherever.

I guess I should grant you some slack since ADD is a congenital problem that's really not your fault.

I suspect the rank 'n file here are so in love with the OCT because they hate to see America "dis'd". I mean I know you grew up with the idea that that America was "lilly white" and could never be involved in something so black as 9/11.

MM

 

[beachnut]

Sorry beachnut. I have nothing against truckers. My brother-in-law is a trucker and I know he is an intelligent individual.

You on the other hand just like to toss out words and let them land wherever.

I guess I should grant you some slack since ADD is a congenital problem that's really not your fault.

I suspect the rank 'n file here are so in love with the OCT because they hate to see America "dis'd". I mean I know you grew up with the idea that that America was "lilly white" and could never be involved in something so black as 9/11.

MM

So you are saying a low IQ is not indicative of the followers of 9/11 truth which is made up of lies and misinformation, and you call your brother a redneck like me? What about those codecs? Does this mean you understand that ATC speed of 500 meant, 570 mph?

When someone says redneck trucker I was thinking you were kind of bigoted for saying it. I guess your bother in-law does not care. I still think it is bigoted to say it. And imply they would not like certain types of music. You said it, and I labeled it as being the bigot you seem to be. And then you throw out the 9/11 lies, but came up short. Have you figured out the aircraft speed yet? CODEC?