My anecdotal claims

Brian-M said:
Once you have achieved an altered state of consciousness, how can you be sure that you are hearing the same thing as another mystic?
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Comparative mysticism + Comparative mythology + Comparative religion. Together they overlap to give a great deal of insight.

This would seem to be at odds with your explanation. The sound of one hand would appear to be a metaphor for an epiphany resulting in mystic understanding, not the sound of God clapping one hand as you assert.
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God is a metaphor too bub.
 
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Limbo said:
It's kinda hard to be wrong about seeing massive UFOs up close, and seeing psi in your face again and again, and seeing visions of the future and dream after dream after dream come true for years and years. Among other things.

Skeptic: "but human perception is flawed herp derp"
Me: "that's a lame cop-out"
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Make an accurate prediction about an event in the near future.
 
Brian-M said:
Because *I* say so. Not because some authority figure told me that it's nonsense, but because I have concluded that it's nonsense on my own.
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That's amazing. Your head is full of pop-culture crud and scientism indoctrination and irrelevant facts and yet *you* have somehow managed to cut through it all without personally giving mysticism any scholarly attention and without walking a mile in a mystics shoes. Kudos.
 
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Limbo said:
That's amazing. Your head is full of pop-culture crud and indoctrination and trivial facts and yet *you* have somehow managed to cut through it all without giving it scholarly attention and without walking a mile in a mystics shoes. Kudos.
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Wow, two irony meters in one week!
Hey Limbo, do me a solid and mystic me up a case of the things; after all, it's your posts that break 'em all.
 
Limbo said:
Your head is full of pop-culture crud and scientism indoctrination and trivial facts and yet *you* have somehow managed to cut through it all without personally giving mysticism any scholarly attention and without walking a mile in a mystics shoes. Kudos.
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IOW, ur doing it wrong!
 
Limbo said:
That's amazing. Your head is full of pop-culture crud and scientism indoctrination and irrelevant facts and yet *you* have somehow managed to cut through it all without personally giving mysticism any scholarly attention and without walking a mile in a mystics shoes. Kudos.
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How can one walk a mile in a mystic's shoes? There is no such thing as a mystic, only people with delusions of grandeur.
 
Limbo said:
That's amazing. Your head is full of pop-culture crud and scientism indoctrination and irrelevant facts and yet *you* have somehow managed to cut through it all without personally giving mysticism any scholarly attention and without walking a mile in a mystics shoes. Kudos.
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Science leads to real world applications like computers and the Internet.
 
Sideroxylon said:
People have frequently been wrong about what they think they see in the sky, even when a massive alien craft passes over their heads:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights

People are frequently wrong about what they attribute to psychic phenomena.

That human perception is flawed is a trivial fact. That the mind plays an active role in shaping our perception has long been known. A wealth of fascinating psychological experiments are a testimony to this truth.
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Perhaps you would care to tell us of the time when you or someone you know was wrong about a massive and extremely fast UFO that flew right over your head?

Or of the time when you were mistaken about a vivid vision that superimposed itself on the environment and showed you a scene that was still several minutes in the future?
 
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Sideroxylon said:
Science leads to real world applications like computers and the Internet.
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Mere tools. Nothing compared to transcending time and space. Nothing compared to knowing the mind of God.
 
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Limbo said:
Perhaps you would care to tell us of the time when you or someone you know was wrong about a massive and extremely fast UFO flew right over your head?

Or of the time when you were mistaken about a vivid vision that superimposed itself on the environment and showed you a scene that was still several minutes in the future?
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Why do you persist in telling us these silly stories? Is it a mystic's thing?
 
Limbo said:
Perhaps you would care to tell us of the time when you or someone you know was wrong about a massive and extremely fast UFO flew right over your head?

Or of the time when you were mistaken about a vivid vision that superimposed itself on the environment and showed you a scene that was still several minutes in the future?
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I could tell you about all kinds of crap that I made up, probably better made up crap that your made up crap.

Is that what you meant?
 
Well, this thread does admit it's all going to be anecdotal, and Limbo has most of us on ignore.

So, it's an echo-chamber of imagination in here.
 
Donn said:
Well, this thread does admit it's all going to be anecdotal, and Limbo has most of us on ignore.

So, it's an echo-chamber of imagination in here.
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Yeah but every now and again he takes one of us off ignore; his ears go red and his eyes roll to the back of his head, then he posts something brilliant like STFU or you'll never grok.
 
Limbo said:
Mere tools. Nothing compared to transcending time and space. Nothing compared to knowing the mind of God.
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Experiences which you have no way of verifying the validity of. Using dream experiences to verify other dream experiences is a tautology. If you are wrong you have no escape from your sweet delusion.
 
Limbo said:
Mere tools. Nothing compared to transcending time and space. Nothing compared to knowing the mind of God.
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If it's nothing compared to what you already achieved, then why are you still using the tools? Sounds like a delusionaut full of crap to me...
 
"Our posturing, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in this universe are challenged by this point of pale light."
 
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