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Cont: Musk buys Twitter II

Bogative said:
Musk should be called out on this one, he is either a free speech absolutist or not. If groomers want to use slurs against other people, they should be allowed to.
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I'm really wondering if Twitter even has the capability to deal with any invented new slurs, other than the small handful of people who personally complain to Musk and get special treatment.

The general impression is that the new skeleton crew Twitter does not have much moderating capacity generally.
 
jeremyp said:
Without wishing to derail the thread, Tesla does have a market in China. They have a factory there and sold more than 400 thousand vehicles in China last year.

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...d-bump-amid-industry-overcapacity-2023-06-16/

The linked story gives us one good reason why Musk should be pandering to the Chinese.
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Was just about to correct Gulliver on same. However, China is notorious for ripping off the IP of foreign businesses within China. Coming up just as soon as they feel like it Telstar, who just happens to have the Model Z, which just happens to share 98% of components with the Tesla Model Y.
 
catsmate said:
I see Musk and Twitter are being sued over music piracy. Apparently ignoring the law and imposing his one view on copyright isn't popular.............
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Not to mentiion a couple of recent movies have been leaked on twitter with a day of their theatriccal run started....
 
But Musk is a genius? He will make Twitter bigger then ever? You just wait, you doubters and haters!
 
Twitter is now severely rate limited, possibly as a result of it not paying its Google hosting bills on time and not finding a suitable replacement. Musk claims this is to battle scrapers, but this excuse doesn't pass the sniff test and would be incredibly idiotic even if true

Elon Musk on Saturday announced temporary tweet-viewing rate limits restricting how many posts un-verified Twitter users can see, blaming "extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation" for the limited functionality — but the site's former head of trust and safety says that argument "doesn't pass the sniff test."

"To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we've applied the following temporary limits," Musk announced on Twitter in the first of a series of tweets about the decision. Throughout the day, Musk continued posting about the rate limits, increasing the number of posts users could view each time.

As of 10 a.m. Saturday, verified accounts for paid users were initially limited to reading 6,000 posts per day, with existing unverified accounts limited to reading 600 posts per day and new unverified accounts only 300 per day. By 3 p.m., per Musk's tweets, those numbers increased to 10k, 1k, and 0.5k, respectively.


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The limited functionality on Twitter comes amid a scramble to negotiate with Google over cloud storage services after Platformer reported in June that Musk had refused to make payments toward Twitter's existing $1 billion contract with the search giant.

Bloomberg later reported, under Linda Yaccarino's leadership, Twitter has resumed making payments on the contract with Google for essential cloud storage space. Still, negotiations about the future of the partnership are ongoing.
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One Twitter commenter likened a social media rate limit like a casino installing large picture windows by the slot machines to remind degenerate gamblers of the passage of time and the outside world. A rate limit is a good reminder to touch grass, but keeping users endlessly scrolling is generally desirable for social media companies who make their profits from eyes looking at advertising.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
Twitter is now severely rate limited, possibly as a result of it not paying its Google hosting bills on time and not finding a suitable replacement. Musk claims this is to battle scrapers, but this excuse doesn't pass the sniff test and would be incredibly idiotic even if true



One Twitter commenter likened a social media rate limit like a casino installing large picture windows by the slot machines to remind degenerate gamblers of the passage of time and the outside world. A rate limit is a good reminder to touch grass, but keeping users endlessly scrolling is generally desirable for social media companies who make their profits from eyes looking at advertising.
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As darkly satirized in Black Mirror that's the whole ballgame for social media companies.
 
Twitter faces lawsuit over alleged non-payment for office services in four countries

Australia-based company Facilitate seeks more than A$1m for work done at offices in London, Dublin, Sydney and Singapore


Twitter is facing another lawsuit after the company was accused of failing to pay for services for offices in London, Dublin, Sydney and Singapore.

Sydney-based infrastructure company Facilitate is seeking a collective payment over A$1m ($666,000) across the three businesses in alleged owed payments dating back to October last year, when Elon Musk bought Twitter.

Facilitate provided sensor installation in London and Dublin and an office fit-out in Singapore, while in Australia, Facilitate decommissioned Twitter’s Sydney office and temporarily stored its contents, according to case documents obtained by the Guardian.

The company claims it is owed £203,115, SGD$546,596, and A$61,318, respectively.
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Lots of talk that Twitter is in a death spiral, but now a real opportunity to test that theory.

Meta is releasing a Twitter-clone on Thursday called "threads". Unlike the much discussed Bluesky app which is in invite-only beta, Threads is going wide open for open signups from the start.

With Musk paywalling useful tools and generally making Twitter less functional and generally less attractive for most users, it's going to be an interesting experiment if that's enough incentive for users to make the switch to an untested competitor.

Meta’s executives have discussed how to capitalize on the chaos at Twitter since last year, including by building a rival service. “Twitter is in crisis and Meta needs its mojo back,” one Meta employee wrote in an internal post last year, according to a report in December by The New York Times. “LET’S GO FOR THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER.”

That has resulted in Threads, a crash project spun out of Instagram and internally code-named Project 92. Users will be able to log into Threads using their Instagram account, according to photo previews of the app displayed in Apple’s App Store.

Meta executives previously characterized the app as a “sanely run” version of a public-facing social network, in a not-so-subtle jab at Mr. Musk’s erratic behavior.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/03/technology/meta-app-twitter.html
 
TurkeysGhost said:
Lots of talk that Twitter is in a death spiral, but now a real opportunity to test that theory.

Meta is releasing a Twitter-clone on Thursday called "threads". Unlike the much discussed Bluesky app which is in invite-only beta, Threads is going wide open for open signups from the start.

With Musk paywalling useful tools and generally making Twitter less functional and generally less attractive for most users, it's going to be an interesting experiment if that's enough incentive for users to make the switch to an untested competitor.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/03/technology/meta-app-twitter.html
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I don't understand all these different services. Doesn't Facebook already have all the functionality of Threads and Instagram (and Twitter for that matter) as it is?
 
Making a rival social media service with a similar presentation and function is easy. Actually getting users to switch is not so easy.

Although Musk is helping to incentivize Twitter users to actually look for alternatives.
 
Puppycow said:
Making a rival social media service with a similar presentation and function is easy. Actually getting users to switch is not so easy.

Although Musk is helping to incentivize Twitter users to actually look for alternatives.
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That's why Meta is leveraging their existing very large Instagram user base.
 
Am I the only person concerned that Meta now controls Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp and now possibly the new Twitter?

Somebody needs to step in and break this company up.
 
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