Mushroom Cloud and Pyroclastic Flow

[LashL]

We observe that something made steel disintegrate.

Who is this "we" of whence you speak?

The current lines of research involve directed energy weapons and small nuclear fusion devices. I certainly don't know what it was, but it requires an explanation. Just because we don't know what caused something doensn't mean it didn't happen. It happened.

Whose research is this of whence you speak? Certainly not yours, since you have no knowledge, credentials or expertise in any relevant field. And again, who is this "we" of which you speak? Sounds like it's you, petgoat, Reynolds and Woods. Not good company you're keeping there.

 

[JimBenArm]

Who is this "we" of whence you speak?

His multiple personalities, and the mouse in his pocket.

 

[stateofgrace]

It's false to say that "virtually every engineer and scientist on the planet have not said they think the steel is disintegrating in mid air".

The vast majority of engineers and scientists will not speak about 9/11 at all. I'd be happy to talk to any engineer at all who will agree to be tape recorded and answer my questions over the phone. Thus far several have refused. Some including Jonathan Barnett initially agreed, then backed out. Currently Greening says he will do a televised debate, and I look forward to it.

Ok for the sake of keeping you on track, let’s say they don't want to talk about it. Any reason why?

The actual question I was asking, by the way was what is causing, in your opinion, the steel to disintegrate?

Any ideas?

Ok you have now edited your post and directed me towards space beams and nukes. Now, in a reasonable and sane world, would you not agree that energy beams and mini nukes are quiet outrageous claims even by truthy standards?

So you reckon, I should entertain you further by wasting my time replying to somebody who is going to carp on and on about space beams, mini nukes and disintegrating steel?

Seriously?

 

[A W Smith]

You keep saying 'we'. All three of you? Or nine of you if all have a mouse in each pants pocket? And if the steel was turned to powder what did the Chinese, Indians. battleship builder buy? Powdered steel? Just add water? You make it sound as if GZ could have been cleaned up with a few large shop vacs. Did you ever have a head injury? Or are you mentally handicapped since birth?

 

[The Almond]

The vast majority of engineers and scientists will not speak about 9/11 at all.

I like how you excluded all of the engineers, scientists and academics who reviewed, researched and wrote the NCSTAR in addition to the numerous engineers who published independent accounts including those working for the WTC 7 insurance companies. They were more than happy to speak out about the WTC collapse in a way that is contucive to scientific research, namely, reports in peer reviewed journals and presentations made a legitimate scientific conferences.

I'd be happy to talk to any engineer at all who will agree to be tape recorded and answer my questions over the phone.

Why would anyone want to talk to you, answer your questions, and give you full rights to edit, alter and abuse the footage so that you can further your goals? You have a motive that you've demonstrated numerous times on this forum. You seek to discredit or defame anyone who doesn't agree with your misguided opinions about 9/11, and you seek validation from any source about your beliefs.

Thus far several have refused. Some including Jonathan Barnett initially agreed, then backed out. Currently Greening says he will do a televised debate, and I look forward to it.

Me too, but then again, your showing here of late has been to sharpen your skills against him. Frankly, he doesn't have anything to worry about if your main argument involves volcanic flows and space microwaves.

We observe that something made steel disintegrate.

The rest of us, however, don't.

The current lines of research involve directed energy weapons and small nuclear fusion devices. I certainly don't know what it was, but it requires an explanation. Just because we don't know what caused something doensn't mean it didn't happen. It happened.

Here's a question for you: Why is it that the majority of truthers, including Steven Jones, rejects the directed energy space microwave as being utterly ridiculous? Why have so many truthers accused Judy Wood of being a government paid disinfo agent? Why are thermite and conventional explosives accepted as the leading alternative collapse hypotheses among conspiracy theorists?

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

And now TAM goes away, embarrassed, without replying to my answer. TAM, if you can't see the difference in behaviour between the Landmark dust, and the twin tower dust, I feel very sorry for your patients.

Does anyone have any answers for my questions?

What about the proposed experiment? If you all are so willing to believe in the "Drafting Drywall Dust" explanation, why not have a litte experiment? I strongly suspect the reason is that you all know that you are lying, and are quite afraid of such an experiment. Otherwise, help me design it. I'll do it.

And, please, what happened to the steel from the north wall of WTC1?

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

Ok for the sake of keeping you on track, let’s say they don't want to talk about it. Any reason why?

Yes, they are afraid of documented evidence that may land them in prison.

The actual question I was asking, by the way was what is causing, in your opinion, the steel to disintegrate?

Best ideas are Directed Energy Weapons, or micro nuclear fusion. I'm open to other ideas, should they emerge.

Ok you have now edited your post and directed me towards space beams and nukes. Now, in a reasonable and sane world, would you not agree that energy beams and mini nukes are quiet outrageous claims even by truthy standards?

No, Energy weapons are science fact.

 

[332nd]

Yes, they are afraid of documented evidence that may land them in prison.

Even though they would make tens of millions of dollars and be hailed as national heroes once you release the information they gave you? Or did you want to take all of the credit?

Best ideas are Directed Energy Weapons, or micro nuclear fusion. I'm open to other ideas, should they emerge.

Two very large planes, traveling at a high rate of speed.

No, Energy weapons are science fact.

Oh so you can show us a possible weapon? What is it? Oh and the source you got the specs from.

 

[Pipirr]

Yes, they are afraid of documented evidence that may land them in prison.



Best ideas are Directed Energy Weapons, or micro nuclear fusion. I'm open to other ideas, should they emerge.




No, Energy weapons are science fact.

Thank you TS. And I mean that sincerely. Now I know what this thread is all about.

 

[rwguinn]

Yes, they are afraid of documented evidence that may land them in prison.



Best ideas are Directed Energy Weapons, or micro nuclear fusion. I'm open to other ideas, should they emerge.




No, Energy weapons are science fact.

you have at least 5 registered engineers here, and numerous other students, physicists, chemists, and other experts who have over the past few thousand posts, given you answers which you refuse to see.
Not a one of us are in jail, or even fearful of it.
buh bye.

 

[A W Smith]

Does anyone have any answers for my questions?

What about the proposed experiment? If you all are so willing to believe in the "Drafting Drywall Dust" explanation, why not have a litte experiment? I strongly suspect the reason is that you all know that you are lying, and are quite afraid of such an experiment. Otherwise, help me design it. I'll do it.

Don't you have a shovel? I already proved it! OK if you don't have a shovel why not do something similar. Go to a home center and get a bag of some powdered joint compound. Now throw it onto something heavy and useless you possess. Oh I know.. Your Grand Piano!! your music sucks anyway. So open the bag of powdered joint compound and spread it evenly all over the top of your useless grand piano. Now nudge it out the third story balcony. You see that? The Powdered Joint compound if drafting the damn piano! Oops forgot to tell you to hold your ears while it hits the pavement below cause the piano is going to make a sound that sounds better than your last composition.

 

[WildCat]

To rework an old joke, perfect pitch is defined as the sound of Ace Baker's piano hitting square in the middle of a dumpster from a 3rd floor balcony.

 

[babazaroni]

What about the proposed experiment? If you all are so willing to believe in the "Drafting Drywall Dust" explanation, why not have a litte experiment? I strongly suspect the reason is that you all know that you are lying, and are quite afraid of such an experiment. Otherwise, help me design it. I'll do it.

"Drafting drywall" is pretty funny. It's got a ring to it.

I can see it on LCF, "those dumbf* jrefers think drywall drafted. Hahaha. They live in such a bizarre world. Hahaha, idiots. MiniNukes rule dude"

But what about the acre of concrete 4 inches thick on each floor?

Don't you think that constituted far more material then drywall?

BTW, A.W Smith has already performed this experiment by shoveling construction debris out a few floors up.

No one here is afraid of scaling this experiment up, but why do this for a Christophera wannabe?

 

[LashL]

And now TAM goes away, embarrassed, without replying to my answer. TAM, if you can't see the difference in behaviour between the Landmark dust, and the twin tower dust, I feel very sorry for your patients.

As if. Nothing you have ever posted here embarrasses anyone but yourself. You need not worry your little tinhat covered head about TAM's patients, BS1+2=4. You have enough on your plate trying to get out from under your ridiculous, unsupported assertions and your lack of knowledge, credentials and expertise - which you have utterly failed to do on every single thread that you have ever posted on - that you need not worry about anyone else.

And you still haven't answered my posts above ~ does that mean that you are too embarrassed to do so?

The rest of your post is undeserving of response. Nobody here buys your nonsense for a moment. You really should stick to troofer sites and the DU dungeon where your fellow troofers will swallow anything.

 

[LashL]

To rework an old joke, perfect pitch is defined as the sound of Ace Baker's piano hitting square in the middle of a dumpster from a 3rd floor balcony.

Boom tish.

(His music and vocals suck almost as badly as his nonsensical posts here, IMO.)

 

[AZCat]

Hey, TS1+2=4, is it true that you're "petgoat" on DU? This has been raised before but you've never answered.

I don't know -they all start to sound the same after a while (with the exception of a few standouts - ChristopherA, for example, will never be mistaken for another).

 

[The Almond]

And now TAM goes away, embarrassed, without replying to my answer. TAM, if you can't see the difference in behaviour between the Landmark dust, and the twin tower dust, I feel very sorry for your patients.

This is a very childish statement. Please consider arguing like an adult.

Does anyone have any answers for my questions?

What an astounding sentiment for a person whose participation in this forum for the last 3 months has been to come in, make wild, unsupported and irrational claims, and then leave before answering any of the rational questions or challenges to your arguments.

What about the proposed experiment? If you all are so willing to believe in the "Drafting Drywall Dust" explanation, why not have a litte experiment?

Your wording betrays your bias. Real scientists know that valid, global results do not come from "little experiments." Frankly, you have neither the experience, education, nor the resources to conduct an experiment on the scale that would replicate the crushing conditions of the WTC towers.

I strongly suspect the reason is that you all know that you are lying, and are quite afraid of such an experiment.

This is trolling behavior. Insulting the forum members and calling them cowards does nothing for your argument and is only intended to bring emotional responses into the thread. Please argue like an adult.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Best ideas are Directed Energy Weapons, or micro nuclear fusion. I'm open to other ideas, should they emerge.

Just in case you missed it last time*


*Disclaimer: While this paper debunks it's target well, it lacks the same critical thought to the author's own theory.

 

[CHF]

Yes, they are afraid of documented evidence that may land them in prison.

Best ideas are Directed Energy Weapons, or micro nuclear fusion. I'm open to other ideas, should they emerge.

No, Energy weapons are science fact.

So TS presents an "anomolly" and when asked for HIS theory he babbles on about beam weapons.

Asking twoofers for their theories (instead of letting them JAQ off) is a sure way to end the debate.

Their theories are always so stupid that all you can do is shake your head and thank God that so many of these people are glued to their PCs all day instead of out driving around.

 

[Horatius]

I'll just quote TruthinessSeeker from an earlier discussion we had:

Models attempt to describe reality. They must be simpler than reality, but to be valid must capture some essential aspect of reality. Greening's model requires the mass to accumulate as the "collapse" proceeds. All of the evidence, I repeat, all of it indicates that this is not the case. We observe mass quantities of very dense stuff outside the footprint. When it's over, there is no pile. There is a smoldering crater.

Why don't you guys get to the part where you explain how all of the accumulating mass which stays inside the footprint, suddenly turns into a smoldering crater, as clearly shown in this picture?

Just so we all remember exactly how divorced from reality his perceptions actually are.

Thank you TS. And I mean that sincerely. Now I know what this thread is all about.

I did warn you about needing lots of beer, right?