Mueller Investigation pt5

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thaiboxerken said:
They are both wrong. Barr is not a respectable man that behaves honorably. He has a history. He helped Bush Sr. avoid criminal investigations for his role in Iran/Contra.
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Do you have evidence that Barr did not think that was the right decision for his position?
 
BobTheCoward said:
Do you have evidence that Barr did not think that was the right decision for his position?
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Maybe he did. But so what? The schizophrenic thinks he makes the right decision for his position while planting an axe into the skull of his neighbor because his dog told him to.

And now I'm anticipating the next naive, ideologically pure to the point of meaningless irrelevance JAQ, for which you're infamous, along the lines of, "Why do you think the Schizoid made the wrong decision?"
 
Barr most certainly knew that nowhere in the law governing Special Counsels does it say anything about the AG making a public judgement on the report.
The job of the AG is to send the report onto Congress after a review; inserting his opinion on what the report does or doesn't mean is a purely political move, which, in an investigation that is set up to as a-political as possible, is a violation of norms and rules.
 
Let's face it: Barr was hired to say "no collusion" after the garden gnome would not, and Whitaker bailed, and he wrote a 19-page job-application letter about why the "no collusion" case was unconstitutional, and finally Trump wished him a "mafioso's good luck" in the new position. So he said "no collusion". Kinda predictable.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Let's face it: Barr was hired to say "no collusion" after the garden gnome would not, and Whitaker bailed, and he wrote a 19-page job-application letter about why the "no collusion" case was unconstitutional, and finally Trump wished him a "mafioso's good luck" in the new position. So he said "no collusion". Kinda predictable.
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That's an outrageous conspiracy theory based entirely on circumstantial evidence, and a damned good one.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Maddow is often reacting to and commenting on items that are literally coming across her desk during the show, or have just been made public.

Like any responsible commentator - and unlike our president - she is quite good at correcting errors when called for. It’s like the “Andrew was wrong” segment on Opening Arguments. There’s nothing wrong with making mistakes - we all do. It’s just seems that the Roy Cohn/Roger Stone/Donald Trump mantra of “never admit error or fault” has taken hold among both Trump and his minions. To them, Rachel or Andrew correcting themselves is a sign of weakness. SAD!


edited to add: I see quadraginta cover similar terrain with “Trump supporters, by their very nature, are not the kind to admit they made a mistake. One of the things they actually respect Trump for is his insistence on doubling down no matter how obvious and glaring his errors and lies are.

They follow his lead and keep doubling down themselves. I wouldn't expect that to change.”
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Another thing she does well is when a single news outlet is reporting something she is repeating, she will make this clear. For example the disclaimer goes something like "this is new reporting from the Washington Post. Our own sources cannot confirm this, and no other news source is reporting this". You will never, ever see Carlson or chief racist Laura Ingraham at Faux News doing this... e.g., "the Caravan is bringing leprosy and smallpox to the USA" - a claim that was made by one and only one correspondent that Faux News never, ever retracted.
 
Wow, Russiagaters, it really happened - you were right all along and get to do your own victory lap now:

Leaked Mueller Report Proves Barr Lied; Collusion Theorists Vindicated

An unredacted copy of the Robert Mueller report has been leaked to the Washington Post, who published the full document on its website Monday.

The report contains many shocking revelations which prove that Attorney General William Barr deceived the world in his summary of its contents, as astute Trump-Russia collusion theorists have been claiming since it emerged.

For example, while Barr’s excerpted quote from the report may read like a seemingly unequivocal assertion, “[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities,” it turns out that the full sentence reads very differently: “It is totally not the case that the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” The following sentence is even more damning: “It definitely did establish that that happened.” [...]

When asked why he didn’t reveal to the public that Barr was misrepresenting the contents of his report, Mueller responded with a mischievous grin, “I didn’t want to spoil the surprise.” He then put on a pair of sunglasses and rode off on a motorcycle due east into the rising sun, while the smooth notes of a single saxophone resounded through the D.C. cityscape. [...]
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smartcooky said:
You will never, ever see Carlson or chief racist Laura Ingraham at Faux News doing this... e.g., "the Caravan is bringing leprosy and smallpox to the USA" - a claim that was made by one and only one correspondent that Faux News never, ever retracted.
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Probably correct as to those two.

But I did recall a caveat from the network shortly after the segment, and just found it. It was Charles Payne, at the conclusion of the episode where the claim was made:

“Earlier in this hour, one of our guests said some of the people in the caravan may have diseases like leprosy and TB,” Payne said. “Well, we want to say we have no way of independently confirming this, and we wanted to clarify that point for you.”

I admit it’s a weak “retraction”, making no mention of smallpox, but it was made. Downside is that I doubt it canceled out the impression made by the outrageous and false claim that preceded it.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
Probably correct as to those two.

But I did recall a caveat from the network shortly after the segment, and just found it. It was Charles Payne, at the conclusion of the episode where the claim was made:

“Earlier in this hour, one of our guests said some of the people in the caravan may have diseases like leprosy and TB,” Payne said. “Well, we want to say we have no way of independently confirming this, and we wanted to clarify that point for you.”

I admit it’s a weak “retraction”, making no mention of smallpox, but it was made. Downside is that I doubt it canceled out the impression made by the outrageous and false claim that preceded it.
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Figures they'd hide it all the way at the end of the episode.
 
It requires a special kind of mental gymnastics to state that, after more than a year of undermining Mueller's credibility, now we have to accept a second-hand summary of his report without question.
 
Belz... said:
This is all just an exercise in hoisting yourself over other people, isn't it?

Why can't you honestly discuss this issue? Not even admit that, since we don't actually have the report, we can't say what it contains?
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Because Putin would not approve.
 
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