Mueller Investigation pt5

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I never said anything bad about Andrew McCabe’s wife other than she (they) should not have taken large amounts of campaign money from a Crooked Hillary source when Clinton was under investigation by the FBI. I never called his wife a loser to him (another McCabe made up lie)!
 
The Big Dog said:
Normal people: wait, isn't the person behind those claims the same guy who repeatedly lied, and was fired for lying, and the OIG referred the liar to the DoJ for lying; plus he is trying to sell a book?

Actual Media: Yep

MSM: IT IS TEH COLLUSION!!!

Normal people....
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AND PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE LIES COMING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!!!
 
"I never insulted that guy's wife to his face" Our Alpha Male president
 
Trump Tweets said:
I never said anything bad about Andrew McCabe’s wife other than she (they) should not have taken large amounts of campaign money from a Crooked Hillary source when Clinton was under investigation by the FBI. I never called his wife a loser to him (another McCabe made up lie)!
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Those parenthetical asides - God damn. It's like he read a course on how not to communicate effectively.
 
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Crossbow said:
Just to point out one detail that you may not be aware of.

The President cannot 'pardon' his way out of his own crimes. After all, the constitution specifically forbids the use of pardons in the case of impeachment (Article 2, Section 2).
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That would address the impeachment part. I think it is clear that there are a multitude of other possible charges which Trump might face.

The essential question of whether or not a President might pardon himself has yet to be fully adjudicated, and Trump would certainly have an interest in testing it. We know that a President can issue a blanket, preemptive pardon for crimes which have never even been alleged, much less moved on by law enforcement. Because it has already happened.

I expect that that is a precedent which Trump will find increasingly attractive. Especially when applied to himself.
 
quadraginta said:
That would address the impeachment part. I think it is clear that there are a multitude of other possible charges which Trump might face.

The essential question of whether or not a President might pardon himself has yet to be fully adjudicated, and Trump would certainly have an interest in testing it. We know that a President can issue a blanket, preemptive pardon for crimes which have never even been alleged, much less moved on by law enforcement. Because it has already happened.

I expect that that is a precedent which Trump will find increasingly attractive. Especially when applied to himself.
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I'm sure there is a perfectly good reason why this would not be impeachable.

I'm really struggling why the Republican party aren't also working to impeach him.
 
jimbob said:
I'm really struggling why the Republican party aren't also working to impeach him.
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Simple... because the Republican party is stuck. They've spent so much of their time catering to bigots and morons that they have nothing left to offer the electorate. And Trump especially caters to the bigotry and stupidity.

If they get rid of him, then they piss off their supporters. "We wanted Mango Moussolini and you had him impeached! We're not voting for you again!"
 
jimbob said:
I'm sure there is a perfectly good reason why this would not be impeachable.

I'm really struggling why the Republican party aren't also working to impeach him.
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There are two reasons the GOP allow Trump to remain:

1. Tax cuts for the rich; and
2. Supreme Court nominations from their preferred list.
 
Segnosaur said:
Not sure why you seem so surprised.



The Nazi space suit pic was a mistake on his part. (After all, Trump and his group may be racists, but they don't necessarily want to call attention to it.) It shows that Stone can and does reuse images without thinking.



His past behavior should lend at least a little credibility to the idea that he did so again in that he probably reused an image without thinking about it.



What exactly is so surprising about that?
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That someone seemingly reasonable can be repeatedly hoodwinked with the same weak excuse from the same person over the same behavior.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
That someone seemingly reasonable can be repeatedly hoodwinked with the same weak excuse from the same person over the same behavior.
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"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

I can't really think of any benefit Stone or Trump would have gotten by getting labeled as Nazis. So why do you think he published a photo of a them wearing swastikas? The idea that he just reused the picture without looking closely at it seems to make more sense than any sort of secret messaging. "Look at us... we are all nazis!"
 
The Great Zaganza said:
no, it isn't.

the judge has a track record of "not being a team player" when it comes to helping Trump's associates. Manafort tried to shop for a jury, Stone is trying to do the same.
As long as he has a shred of deniability, ending in another court could help Stone a lot.
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It is highly unlikely that he will be able to con his way to a change of judge

His case has been listed and documented as directly related to case no. 18CR215, the indictment of the 12 GRU Military Officers in the Russia hacking investigation.

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The judge is that case is Amy Berman Jackson, and it is very unusual for different judges to be appointed to related cases. Judge Jackson would have to recuse herself, and she shows no sign of doing so.
 
smartcooky said:
It is highly unlikely that he will be able to con his way to a change of judge



His case has been listed and documented as directly related to case no. 18CR215, the indictment of the 12 GRU Military Officers in the Russia hacking investigation.



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The judge is that case is Amy Berman Jackson, and it is very unusual for different judges to be appointed to related cases. Judge Jackson would have to recuse herself, and she shows no sign of doing so.
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It would seem strange "I'm going to recluse myself because I know some facts pertaining to the case"
 
Dr. Keith said:
There are two reasons the GOP allow Trump to remain:

1. Tax cuts for the rich; and
2. Supreme Court nominations from their preferred list.
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I don't get this line of reasoning. Wouldn't any bog standard Republican offer the same things. It's not like Hillary would suddenly be put into power.
 
Stone links his prosecution to an alleged coup attempt against Trump by a "globalist cabal"

I am a victim of the same witch hunt, the same effort that is being put forward to take down the president in an illicit coup is the same witch hunt which has indicted me, that is coming after Alex [Jones], that is running the campaign of censorship against Infowars. It’s all the same people. It’s the same globalist cabal.
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https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2...resident-victim-globalist-coup-attempt/222912
 
Segnosaur said:
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

I can't really think of any benefit Stone or Trump would have gotten by getting labeled as Nazis. So why do you think he published a photo of a them wearing swastikas? The idea that he just reused the picture without looking closely at it seems to make more sense than any sort of secret messaging. "Look at us... we are all nazis!"
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Okay, nevermind. I see what I did.

We live on different god damn planets.
 
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