Mueller Investigation pt5

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Darat said:
Rubbish, it's the Democrats' fault for not blocking their nominations!
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As the people around him are taken down it is fun to watch Trump stretch the "It's your fault for not stopping" me excuse further and further.
 
JoeMorgue said:
As the people around him are taken down it is fun to watch Trump stretch the "It's your fault for not stopping" me excuse further and further.
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The sad thing is this really goes to show how far people will let him go. He's seriously not entirely wrong.
 
phiwum said:
It's not clear to me that he counts as a conservative any more. Does he still identify as a conservative or has he more or less renounced conservatism (rather than just the libertarian leaning conservatism)?
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They've renounced conservatism as embodied by Trump. Boot has just gone further the others in his self-inventory and decided that the soul of conservatism isn't worth saving since it's too poisoned and wasn't actually advancing what he believed in.
 
plague311 said:
The sad thing is this really goes to show how far people will let him go. He's seriously not entirely wrong.
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Preaching to the choir, but according to people here I beat that drum too much.

Don't worry I'm sure that one day Pelosi will sarcastically clap at him enough that he surrenders.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Preaching to the choir, but according to people here I beat that drum too much.

Don't worry I'm sure that one day Pelosi will sarcastically clap at him enough that he surrenders.
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Well, since she's not on the Right, it would be uncouth to call for a "2nd Amendment solution".
 
JoeMorgue said:
Preaching to the choir, but according to people here I beat that drum too much.

Don't worry I'm sure that one day Pelosi will sarcastically clap at him enough that he surrenders.
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But you're being overly cynical. She did that after bringing his idiotic ego monument to a halt and bringing him to the brink of political bankruptcy, and after installing committee chairmen who want to get to the bottom of why so many people told so many lies.
 
WilliamSeger said:
But you're being overly cynical. She did that after bringing his idiotic ego monument to a halt and bringing him to the brink of political bankruptcy, and after installing committee chairmen who want to get to the bottom of why so many people told so many lies.
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Yeah that's what I keep getting told, that whatever so and so symbolic act against Trump the Left manages to eek out against him today is "setting the stage" for his take down or "eroding his base" or "hurting his pride" or some other variations on the same "Okay it's not a win... but it's gonna help us win tomorrow" narrative while any real, tangible, meaningful political harm or depowering of Trump stay perpetually "Any minute now. Any minute now. Okay now. No now. Now. Wait for it... NOW. Okay now."

He's still President. He's put two Justices on the Supreme Court and if Ginsburg keels over tomorrow nothing the Democrats can do to stop him from putting his toupee maker on it if he so chooses.

I'm done hearing about things that maybe might hypothetically could be setting the stage for Trumps downfall... eventually being treated as wins.

They keep sharpening a Sword of Damocles that it seems less and less likely each day is ever going to drop and every time they climb back up to sharpen it again we're told "Oh it's different this time, this time it's totally gonna drop. I know I said that last time, but this time we mean it."

Alls I'm saying is if whenever the shoe finally drops on Trump it's not the biggest shoe in the history of dropped shoes, a lot of of this is retroactively going to be trying to manufacture a victory out of a defeat.
 
The issue of American independence took 30-odd years and a war to finally resolve. Chess games are not won with just the first move but a series of calculated moves over time. Trump is not going to be gone in the next week or so. The GOP are not going to suddenly get a change of heart. It just doesn't work like that.
 
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Roger Stone on Monday attacked the federal judge presiding over his criminal case in the special counsel’s Russia probe.

In an Instagram post, Stone lashed out at U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson.

Through legal trickery Deep State hitman Robert Mueller has guaranteed that my upcoming show trial is before Judge Amy Berman Jackson , an Obama appointed Judge who dismissed the Benghazi charges again Hillary Clinton and incarcerated Paul Manafort prior to his conviction for any crime,
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https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/ro...al-judge-threatening-picture-next-crosshairs/
 
Belz... said:
Wow, that's quite a high dishonesty density post! I didn't know you could pack so much of it into a single sentence, but Stone's proven me wrong.
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And yet, some people will believe all or some of it.

Dismissed the Benghazi charges? There are still people walking around that are convinced that she issued the stand down order. Despite Republican-led congressional investigations that found no evidence.
 
Is McCabe trying to get Rosenstein fired? Because this is how you get Rosenstein fired.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
It you are Rosenstein you simply tell Trump firing you would make what McCabe said look credible.
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But for Trump, his cronies, and his base this is spun as traitorous actions. An attempted administrative coup. He doesn't care if that looks credible. It's just the excuse he needs to get Rosenstein out of the way. Further if the 25th were to be invoked or Trump loses in 2020 this is another thing priming his base and fellow Republicans that this is just another illegal coup attempt via 25th amendment or vote rigging to prevent the rightfully elected POTUS from office.

And now he can say that Rosenstein has always been against Trump, wanted to wear a wire and invoke the 25th amendment and this is the guy who oversaw the Mueller investigation. All this feeds into Trump's narratives.
 
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Ladewig said:
And yet, some people will believe all or some of it.

Dismissed the Benghazi charges? There are still people walking around that are convinced that she issued the stand down order. Despite Republican-led congressional investigations that found no evidence.
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Have you met some of the 'conservatives' on this board?
 
The_Animus said:
But for Trump, his cronies, and his base this is spun as traitorous actions. An attempted administrative coup. He doesn't care if that looks credible. It's just the excuse he needs to get Rosenstein out of the way. Further if the 25th were to be invoked or Trump loses in 2020 this is another thing priming his base and fellow Republicans that this is just another illegal coup attempt via 25th amendment or vote rigging to prevent the rightfully elected POTUS from office.

And now he can say that Rosenstein has always been against Trump, wanted to wear a wire and invoke the 25th amendment and this is the guy who oversaw the Mueller investigation. All this feeds into Trump's narratives.
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All likely possibilities.

I wonder if Rosenstein knows too much and Trump knows it because he could have made the same charges before the McCabe interview.
 
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