Mueller Investigation pt5

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“The biggest abuse of power and corruption scandal in our history, and it’s much worse than we thought. Andrew McCabe (FBI) admitted to plotting a coup (government overthrow) when he was serving in the FBI, before he was fired for lying & leaking.” @seanhannity @FoxNews
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Remember this, Andrew McCabe didn’t go to the bathroom without the approval of Leakin’ James Comey!
 
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Norman Alexander said:
Stone is eat-the-snake crazy and has been for many years.
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Maybe.

Right now he may be playing some sort of “martyr card”, and revoked bail would fit right in with that scheme.

One wonders if incarceration will affect his apparent feeling of invulnerability, or somehow play into it. My guess is that an extended stay in jail might shake his confidence in his selected course of action. Even if he’s playing for an eventual pardon, the reality of a finite portion of his life on this mortal coil being spent in jail may jolt him back to the seriousness of his situation.

Still curious to see if the judge revokes his bail today or in the near future. I’m betting yes, but lots of factors must be going through the judge’s mind today.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1097593941795500032



Quote embedded in tweet. Essentially "it wasn't a threat, but people are misinterpreting it as such so even though it's 100% factual I'm taking it down". There are a couple of follow-ups in the subsequent tweets.
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"It would be unfortunate if your wife and children were to meet with some terrible accident. A car crash, for example, or if they were to be caught in some random drive-by shooting. Very unfortunate.

What? No, it wasn't a threat, just the simple fact that it would be . . . unfortunate."
 
So Roger Stone going all-in for a Trump pardon? Can't see any other reason to personally antagonize a judge that will decide whether or not you get to be a free man in the near future.
 
Belz... said:
The problem with that strategy is that Trump, while demanding loyalty, has none towards anyone.
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Even if there is a pardon, who knows when that might actually happen. Pardoning these people would probably be an act of desperation for Trump, and would likely only occur in an end-game situation, either facing impeachment or as a lame duck. Roger Stone better be hoping for Trump to lose re-election and/or be facing impeachment soon, or he might have to wait in jail for some time.

But yeah, I don't see Trump sticking his neck out for his sacrificed pawns unless it is necessary for his own survival or unless it costs him nothing.
 
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Hopefully sooner or later everybody outside of the major players in all of this are going to start to realize that turning on Trump gives them better "saving your bacon" odds then hoping Trump will save them.

And honestly that's the bait I'd dangle if I was the Dems. Sure the inner circle goes down, no questions, no excuses but the players at the periphery are worth throwing a bone to see if they can be turned.

Some "Has enough evidence on Trump to do damage but didn't do so much evil himself that making a deal with them doesn't stain our soul" balance of a person has to exist in that clustertruck somewhere.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Even if there is a pardon, who knows when that might actually happen. Pardoning these people would probably be an act of desperation for Trump, and would likely only occur in an end-game situation, either facing impeachment or as a lame duck. Roger Stone better be hoping for Trump to lose re-election and/or be facing impeachment soon, or he might have to wait in jail for some time.

But yeah, I don't see Trump sticking his neck out for his sacrificed pawns unless it is necessary for his own survival or unless it costs him nothing.
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Just to point out one detail that you may not be aware of.

The President cannot 'pardon' his way out of his own crimes. After all, the constitution specifically forbids the use of pardons in the case of impeachment (Article 2, Section 2).
 
Crossbow said:
Just to point out one detail that you may not be aware of.

The President cannot 'pardon' his way out of his own crimes. After all, the constitution specifically forbids the use of pardons in the case of impeachment (Article 2, Section 2).
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Sure, but he might pardon all his cronies in an attempt to get them to keep quiet and stay loyal. HW Bush pretty much pardoned everyone involved with Iran Contra and it worked pretty well to keep him from being personally implicated. Fortunately, Trump lacks the competence of the Reagan/Bush administrations.

If Trump sees an impeachment coming down the pike, who knows what he'll do.
 
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Crossbow said:
The President cannot 'pardon' his way out of his own crimes. After all, the constitution specifically forbids the use of pardons in the case of impeachment (Article 2, Section 2).
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And this would be different from all the other things Trump can't do that he absolutely can do because nobody stops him... how exactly?

"But... but you can't do that!" sounds like the adults talking on the Peanuts cartoon to Trump and hasn't exactly been very effective in getting him to not do things.
 
JoeMorgue said:
And this would be different from all the other things Trump can't do that he absolutely can do because nobody stops him... how exactly?

"But... but you can't do that!" sounds like the adults talking on the Peanuts cartoon to Trump and hasn't exactly been very effective in getting him to not do things.
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Yes, the legislative branch is the one tasked with checking his power, and the Republicans are happy to see it become subservient to the Executive. I don't see that changing unless more D's take both houses, or the R's have an abrupt change of heart.
 
The Big Dog said:
Say, lets take a gander at what Seth Abramson, poet/grifter, has to say about last night's big interviewed with repeated fraudster Andy McCabe:



Ah, he has written extensively about it! well then....

Just kidding totally untrue, as everyone know McCabe and his unruly gang of Trump haters slow walked the revelation of the Weiner laptop until after McCabe's wife taking contributions were published in the WSJ, and not only did Comey not got threatened, he didn't even know what was on the laptop, and when he did, he immediately ordered the investigation reopened.

McCabe is a total slimbag, and the fact that Seth is on the case trying to rehabilitate that loser tells you all you need to know about him.
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Seth Abramson thread on the CBS McCabe interview
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If you have something to add to that nonsense, please do so. You would have been better off reading this thread, of course, because I demolished Seth's nonsense yesterday by applying the time to first lie rule, and Seth came out swinging with lies right out of the gate.

Interesting how often people link to the Poet's musings rather than sharing their own comments.... hmmmm
 
The Big Dog said:
If you have something to add to that nonsense, please do so. You would have been better off reading this thread, of course, because I demolished Seth's nonsense yesterday by applying the time to first lie rule, and Seth came out swinging with lies right out of the gate.
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"demolished" Seth's nonsense? LMFAO! :dl::dl:

Sorry, you are more wrong than a broken clock. But that isn't news to anyone
 
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