Mueller Investigation pt4

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I wish there had been a perp walk. Images of Stone in cuffs would be priceless.
 
BobTheCoward said:
That wasn't what we were trying to get you to accept. We were trying to answer your question on why others were not indicted with this.
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We don't know that they weren't or won't be. Indictments may be under seal. More may be coming in the next week. We don't have enough information to say that Stone was in any way singled out.
 
So anyone want to make a prediction about stone? Does he:

- cooperate and flip like Flynn/Cohen as an act of self preservation

- feign co-operation like Manafort, trying to play both sides (lie to mueller or hold stuff back, thinking you can outsmart him)

- play innocent

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If there is one person Trump might Pardon even at the cost of his own Presidency, it is probably Roger Stone.

I would guess that Stone will not cooperate with Mueller, not even pretend to, and do his best to play the innocent victim of a witch hunt - in the full expectation that Trump won't let him go to prison.
There are probably a couple of people in the GOP who don't want Stone to talk to prosecutors, either.
 
Segnosaur said:
So anyone want to make a prediction about stone? Does he:

- cooperate and flip like Flynn/Cohen as an act of self preservation

- feign co-operation like Manafort, trying to play both sides (lie to mueller or hold stuff back, thinking you can outsmart him)

- play innocent
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Honest guess: Try to stall to see how Cohen survives so he can tell which way the wind is blowing and either dig his heels in or turn depending how it works for Cohen.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
If there is one person Trump might Pardon even at the cost of his own Presidency, it is probably Roger Stone.

I would guess that Stone will not cooperate with Mueller, not even pretend to, and do his best to play the innocent victim of a witch hunt - in the full expectation that Trump won't let him go to prison.
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That makes sense. I suspect it's in Stone's nature to fight back (dirtily), especially when it's a case of heads he wins, tails he doesn't lose.



There are probably a couple of people in the GOP who don't want Stone to talk to prosecutors, either.
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Also people in Russia and Ukraine. And Brighton Beach, for that matter.
 
OK dash off a quickie... According to a talking head, the papers say that Stone was directed by a senior campaign official. That could be Manafort, however I always pegged Stone as innermost circle, the one person who Trump would funnel everything through. What if it's Junior who directed Stone? That would be fascinating.
 
varwoche said:
OK dash off a quickie... According to a talking head, the papers say that Stone was directed by a senior campaign official. That could be Manafort, however I always pegged Stone as innermost circle, the one person who Trump would funnel everything through. What if it's Junior who directed Stone? That would be fascinating.
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Renato Mariotti suggests it's Bannon. From the thread above:

5/ A "high-ranking Trump campaign official" is described later in the indictment having contact with Stone through intermediaries about the WikiLeaks hacked emails. One of those emails was previously published by @nytimes and they identified the official as Steve Bannon.
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varwoche said:
OK dash off a quickie... According to a talking head, the papers say that Stone was directed by a senior campaign official...
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I think the reporting is “officials”, in the plural.

From NBC concerning the indictment, in part...

During the summer of 2016, STONE spoke to senior Trump Campaign officials about Organization 1” — WikiLeaks — “and information it might have had that would be damaging to the Clinton Campaign. STONE was contacted by senior Trump Campaign officials to inquire about future releases by Organization 1.” (Page 2)

“STONE also continued to communicate with members of the Trump Campaign about Organization 1 and its intended future releases.” (Page 2)

Bolded mine, of course.
 
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