Mueller Investigation pt4

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The Great Zaganza said:
I don't understand Mueller.
In the indictment it clearly says that Stone was working for "Senior Trump Campaign Officials" - why aren't they under arrest?
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Stone was not arrested for what he was directed to do. He was arrested for lying about it. If what he did wasn't illegal, ordering him to do it isn't illegal.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
you think Stone takes orders from Don Jr. or Ivanka?
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I think they are high-ups in the Trump campaign that Mueller has yet to indict.

The article suggests that Stone took orders from someone. You asked why they haven't been arrested yet. I answered that, and now you seem to be countering by suggesting that they don't exist and Stone didn't take orders from anybody other than Trump. Which...if you like. But that doesn't really change the answer to your initial question of why, if there were people higher than Stone, they haven't been arrested yet. The answer is because investigations start from the bottom and work their way up.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I think they are high-ups in the Trump campaign that Mueller has yet to indict.

The article suggests that Stone took orders from someone. You asked why they haven't been arrested yet. I answered that, and now you seem to be countering by suggesting that they don't exist and Stone didn't take orders from anybody other than Trump. Which...if you like. But that doesn't really change the answer to your initial question of why, if there were people higher than Stone, they haven't been arrested yet. The answer is because investigations start from the bottom and work their way up.
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Mueller hasn't alleged that stone's interactions with wikileaka was illegal.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Mueller hasn't alleged that stone's interactions with wikileaka was illegal.
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Stone passed information about Wikileaks concerning the Clinton Emails on to the Trump Campaign without, as far as we know, being paid for this. This makes it an illegal campaign contribution.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Stone passed information about Wikileaks concerning the Clinton Emails on to the Trump Campaign without, as far as we know, being paid for this. This makes it an illegal campaign contribution.
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Mueller has not alleged that. It would be weird to not indict Stone for that but indict the person who directed him to do it.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Mueller has not alleged that. It would be weird to not indict Stone for that but indict the person who directed him to do it.
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As much as I hate to agree with Bob, none of the charges appear to be tied to illegal campaign contributions.

"The indictment, which was unsealed upon arrest, contains seven counts: one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements, and one count of witness tampering," Mueller's office said in a statement.
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ok, accepted -
Mueller hasn't alleged that Stone helped the Trump campaign through an illegal contribution in this indictment.
 
BobTheCoward said:
That wasn't what we were trying to get you to accept. We were trying to answer your question on why others were not indicted with this.
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Thanks for that.

I very much doubt that the buck stops with Stone.
No doubt Stone is the highest value target for Mueller so far, the longest and closest ally Trump has.
I would have expected Kushner or Don Jr. to go first.
 
Anyone who is at all interested in the Roger Stone arrest should see this documentary for background:

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Helps untangle the tangled web they wove.
 
I wonder about the timing: Mueller could get Stone whenever he wanted, but he did it during the shutdown, which is causing the FBI a lot of strain.
Might the Senate subpoena for Micheal Cohen have been the trigger?
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Anyone who is at all interested in the Roger Stone arrest should see this documentary for background:

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Helps untangle the tangled web they wove.
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Just a hint for those who haven't seen it before:

Make sure you go and re-read that the slimy rule10 has now been arrested afterwards, because that documentary is quite likely to get your blood boiling.
 
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