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Your question implies that something existed before God. So, what are the contingencies of existence? Was there ever a time when existence was not contingent?
You are the one who continually claims that something cannot come from nothing. If God is something, what does he come from?

Either answer the question or admit that you don't know whether or not something can exist without precedents.
 
You are the one who continually claims that something cannot come from nothing. If God is something, what does he come from?

Either answer the question or admit that you don't know whether or not something can exist without precedents.
No, if something existed before God, then we have to ask what are the contingenices of existence?
 
If the rules of existence are contingent upon God, then there is no before God.
Why is it, then, that you have such trouble with the concept "there is no before time"? That one has much more going for it, too...
 
And, if God has always existed? ...
Time, too, has existed for as long as there has been time. There is no "before" that. And I do not have to qualify my statement about time with an "if".

You have no problem believing it about something you make up; why is it so impossible for you to understand it about something that is there whether you believe in it or not?
 
Time, too, has existed for as long as there has been time. There is no "before" that. And I do not have to qualify my statement about time with an "if".

You have no problem believing it about something you make up; why is it so impossible for you to understand it about something that is there whether you believe in it or not?
And, if God exists outside of time and space? ...
 
If something were Eternal, much the same as any other infinite subset, how would we define it within the parameters of time and space?
 
If something were Eternal, much the same as any other infinite subset, how do we define it within the parameters of time and space?
Have you already forgotten everything about set theory? (oh, that's right, you don't know anything about set theory.) Um...Have you already forgotten that you should not attempt to use set theory?
 
Have you already forgotten everything about set theory? (oh, that's right, you don't know anything about set theory.) Um...Have you already forgotten that you should not attempt to use set theory?
Oh, but we do know that infinity exists, at least theoretically. And yes, Eternity is a subset of those things which are infinite ... infinite time, infinite space, infinite power, etc., etc..
 
Then we, who are bound by time and space, can never know it.

No matter how cool our dreams may be.
And, as I have said, consciousness exists as the outer parameter to time and space. In fact, we would not know of time and space without it.
 
Oh, but we do know that infinity exists, at least theoretically. And yes, Eternity is a subset of those things which are infinite ... infinite time, infinite space, infinite power, etc., etc..
I'll play along...given your new-found knowledge of set theory :oldroll: , could you offer your answer for your question? Or, in context, are you still mis-using set theory?
Iacchus said:
If something were Eternal, much the same as any other infinite subset, how would we define it within the parameters of time and space?
 
And, as I have said, consciousness exists as the outer parameter to time and space. In fact, we would not know of time and space without it.
You have asserted this repeatedly, and have refused to take the smallest step toward learning about consciousness from those who have made its study their lives' work. Have you even begun to watch those videos?

Your view of consciousness would be (perhaps) embraced by Descartes, but by precious few since him.
 
I'll play along...given your new-found knowledge of set theory :oldroll: , could you offer your answer for your question? Or, in context, are you still mis-using set theory?
What is the Big Bang expanding into, if not that which is infinite, at least theoretically?
 
You have asserted this repeatedly, and have refused to take the smallest step toward learning about consciousness from those who have made its study their lives' work. Have you even begun to watch those videos?

Your view of consciousness would be (perhaps) embraced by Descartes, but by precious few since him.
And if we understood that consciousness was the fifth dimension, in answer to a question posted by someone earlier, we may begin to understand where to look for God.
 
What is the Big Bang expanding into, if not that which is infinite, at least theoretically?
Again, you have forgotten everything from before last week. It is not expanding "into" anything. Not even theoretically.

You are repeating stuff that was soundly refuted. You are nothing more than a troll at this point.
 
And if we understood that consciousness was the fifth dimension, in answer to a question posted by someone earlier, we may begin to understand where to look for God.
And if we understand that you know nothing about consciousness, and that the "fifth dimension" has nothing to do with consciousness, we may begin to understand more about the world.

Get help, Iacchus.
 

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