Your question implies that something existed before God. So, what are the contingencies of existence? Was there ever a time when existence was not contingent?That wasn't MY question. Who made God ?
Your question implies that something existed before God. So, what are the contingencies of existence? Was there ever a time when existence was not contingent?That wasn't MY question. Who made God ?
You are the one who continually claims that something cannot come from nothing. If God is something, what does he come from?Your question implies that something existed before God. So, what are the contingencies of existence? Was there ever a time when existence was not contingent?
No, if something existed before God, then we have to ask what are the contingenices of existence?You are the one who continually claims that something cannot come from nothing. If God is something, what does he come from?
Either answer the question or admit that you don't know whether or not something can exist without precedents.
No, if something existed before God, then we have to ask what are the contingenices of existence?
If the rules of existence are contingent upon God, then there is no before God.How is that different from the universe ? You're applying different set of rules for two different things.
Why is it, then, that you have such trouble with the concept "there is no before time"? That one has much more going for it, too...If the rules of existence are contingent upon God, then there is no before God.
And, if God has always existed? ...Why is it, then, that you have such trouble with the concept "there is no before time"? That one has much more going for it, too...
Time, too, has existed for as long as there has been time. There is no "before" that. And I do not have to qualify my statement about time with an "if".And, if God has always existed? ...
And, if God exists outside of time and space? ...Time, too, has existed for as long as there has been time. There is no "before" that. And I do not have to qualify my statement about time with an "if".
You have no problem believing it about something you make up; why is it so impossible for you to understand it about something that is there whether you believe in it or not?
Then we, who are bound by time and space, can never know it.And, if God exists outside of time and space? ...
Have you already forgotten everything about set theory? (oh, that's right, you don't know anything about set theory.) Um...Have you already forgotten that you should not attempt to use set theory?If something were Eternal, much the same as any other infinite subset, how do we define it within the parameters of time and space?
Oh, but we do know that infinity exists, at least theoretically. And yes, Eternity is a subset of those things which are infinite ... infinite time, infinite space, infinite power, etc., etc..Have you already forgotten everything about set theory? (oh, that's right, you don't know anything about set theory.) Um...Have you already forgotten that you should not attempt to use set theory?
And, as I have said, consciousness exists as the outer parameter to time and space. In fact, we would not know of time and space without it.Then we, who are bound by time and space, can never know it.
No matter how cool our dreams may be.
I'll play along...given your new-found knowledge of set theoryOh, but we do know that infinity exists, at least theoretically. And yes, Eternity is a subset of those things which are infinite ... infinite time, infinite space, infinite power, etc., etc..
, could you offer your answer for your question? Or, in context, are you still mis-using set theory?Iacchus said:If something were Eternal, much the same as any other infinite subset, how would we define it within the parameters of time and space?
You have asserted this repeatedly, and have refused to take the smallest step toward learning about consciousness from those who have made its study their lives' work. Have you even begun to watch those videos?And, as I have said, consciousness exists as the outer parameter to time and space. In fact, we would not know of time and space without it.
What is the Big Bang expanding into, if not that which is infinite, at least theoretically?I'll play along...given your new-found knowledge of set theory, could you offer your answer for your question? Or, in context, are you still mis-using set theory?
And if we understood that consciousness was the fifth dimension, in answer to a question posted by someone earlier, we may begin to understand where to look for God.You have asserted this repeatedly, and have refused to take the smallest step toward learning about consciousness from those who have made its study their lives' work. Have you even begun to watch those videos?
Your view of consciousness would be (perhaps) embraced by Descartes, but by precious few since him.
Again, you have forgotten everything from before last week. It is not expanding "into" anything. Not even theoretically.What is the Big Bang expanding into, if not that which is infinite, at least theoretically?
And if we understand that you know nothing about consciousness, and that the "fifth dimension" has nothing to do with consciousness, we may begin to understand more about the world.And if we understood that consciousness was the fifth dimension, in answer to a question posted by someone earlier, we may begin to understand where to look for God.