MORE Act. Legal Weed?

[acbytesla]

Yup.

Could you explain the fundamental difference as you see it?

IMV, one is an attempt to experience life to its fullest, the other is an artificial chemical.

Fair point. Perhaps I'm trying to convince you that your personal impression is in error.

I'm well aware that drugs affect people differently.

Perhaps I'm under a misapprehension. But given my experience, persuading me that canabis doesn't have a negative effect on cognitive functioning would be difficult.

 

[plague311]

IMV, one is an attempt to experience life to its fullest, the other is an artificial chemical

THC is artificial? LoL ignorance at its finest.

This includes cannabidiol (CBD) and tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), two natural compounds found in plants of the Cannabis genus...

I'm well aware that drugs affect people differently.

Perhaps I'm under a misapprehension. But given my experience, persuading me that canabis doesn't have a negative effect on cognitive functioning would be difficult.

Ok Boomer.

 

[acbytesla]

LoL Jesus ******* Christ, what a ******** thing to say.

Not everyone, but the world certainly seems full of them. I give you Jimmy Kimmel and his man on the street or CNN's recent interviews with Trump supporters on Pennsylvania Avenue.

 

[BStrong]

Having been on the front line of TWOD, we lost it 30 years back and there's no win to be had -legal;ize all of it, keep strict standards of purity and take all the money thrown away on enforcement towards treatment for the folks that want off the merry-go-round.

 

[plague311]

Not everyone, but the world certainly seems full of them. I give you Jimmy Kimmel and his man on the street or CNN's recent interviews with Trump supporters on Pennsylvania Avenue.

And that has what to do with marijuana?

 

[plague311]

Having been on the front line of TWOD, we lost it 30 years back and there's no win to be had -legal;ize all of it, keep strict standards of purity and take all the money thrown away on enforcement towards treatment for the folks that want off the merry-go-round.

I slightly disagree with regards to legalize it all, but I do agree that you should be able to do what you want until it affects other people. I completely agree with the last part of it though.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Having been on the front line of TWOD, we lost it 30 years back and there's no win to be had -legal;ize all of it, keep strict standards of purity and take all the money thrown away on enforcement towards treatment for the folks that want off the merry-go-round.

But the war on pot was only ever a way to attack mexicans and black jazz musicians anyway. So from that historical perspective it is working fine. You just have to remember the racism at the core of it and then the racism of TWOD fits perfectly.

 

[BStrong]

For interested parties, this is how California operates wrt the excise tax on marijuana:

https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/industry/cannabis.htm#Facts

 

[acbytesla]

THC is artificial? LoL ignorance at its finest.

You think the Canabis plant that people grow today is natural? Today's marijuana is the result of decades of horticultural experimentation and refinement.

 

[acbytesla]

And that has what to do with marijuana?

Now you're taking it too far.

It was a joke.

 

[BStrong]

But the war on pot was only ever a way to attack mexicans and black jazz musicians anyway. So from that historical perspective it is working fine. You just have to remember the racism at the core of it and then the racism of TWOD fits perfectly.

If you go back far enough racism or not the original anti-drug agency was the stop gap to employe the prohibition agents that lost their gig saving America from demon rum.

 

[TragicMonkey]

If you go back far enough racism or not the original anti-drug agency was the stop gap to employe the prohibition agents that lost their gig saving America from demon rum.

Recently Prohibition has been studied with a less biased perspective. There actually is a lot to be said for it, the situation beforehand was rather out of control. While not a perfect solution of course, Prohibition actually did achieve some positive outcomes. It has an unduly negative reputation.

 

[ponderingturtle]

If you go back far enough racism or not the original anti-drug agency was the stop gap to employe the prohibition agents that lost their gig saving America from demon rum.

Maybe as an agency but all anti drug campaigns were decided on because of racism. Hell with pot they even had to ignore the findings of the commission they had to study the dangers of it at the time.

Which also just shows it is working, it is oppressing minorities and providing jobs for cops, exactly what it was intended to do.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Recently Prohibition has been studied with a less biased perspective. There actually is a lot to be said for it, the situation beforehand was rather out of control. While not a perfect solution of course, Prohibition actually did achieve some positive outcomes. It has an unduly negative reputation.

Pluss no one likes those damn catholics anyway. We need to focus on good christian values(ie not papist)

 

[TragicMonkey]

Pluss no one likes those damn catholics anyway. We need to focus on good christian values(ie not papist)

OK, Boomer.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

AF is a drop in the bucket compared to the sales tax the states that have legalized/decriminalized marijuana have raked in:

Are you sure? I haven't found a source that breaks it down the way I want but seizures appear to be in the billions.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

 

[Babbylonian]

A 5% tax will not significantly increase black market share. Taxes on cigarettes are much higher (20+% depending on the state) and they still sell.

Here in Oregon, I spent $60 on enough THC products to last two weeks (and I wasn't being particularly thrifty). A carton of cigarettes costs about that and might last two weeks if one smokes less than a pack per day.

 

[Ranb]

Yep a beer after work should get you fired in that situation. You promised to never drink and that is what you need to do to operate such equipment.

Not really. This is sarcasm right?

 

[BStrong]

Are you sure? I haven't found a source that breaks it down the way I want but seizures appear to be in the billions.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

California had to revise their estimated marijuana tax revenues down Oh Noe!

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/7537...e-has-fallen-short-of-estimates-despite-gains

California's cannabis excise tax generated only $74.2 million in the second quarter of 2019, the state says, announcing numbers that are short of projections that were set months ago. It's the latest sign that the country's largest marijuana market has struggled to take off since sales of recreational pot became legal last year.

The second-quarter figure reflected a gain over the $63.1 million excise revenue from the first three months of 2019. But earlier this year, the results prompted Gov. Gavin Newsom to revise his office's estimates of how much money the state would net from its cannabis industry.

"In January, Gov. Gavin Newsom's proposed budget forecast $355 million and $514 million in excise tax revenues for fiscal years 2019 and 2020, respectively," as member station Capital Public Radio reported.

In May, Newsom's budget lowered its expectations for the cannabis excise tax, to $288 million in the current fiscal year and to $359 million in 2020.

That's a good chunk of money for the expenditure of writing statutes and opening a bank account, and like I pointed out earlier, legalizing drugs does not in any way mean the end of asset forfeiture.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

California had to revise their estimated marijuana tax revenues down Oh Noe!


That's a good chunk of money for the expenditure of writing statutes and opening a bank account, and like I pointed out earlier, legalizing drugs does

not in any way mean the end of asset forfeiture.

But it means the end of asset forfeiture related to whatever the legal MJ industry displaces. It still seems up in the air to me as to whether Feds will see this the way you expect.