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Mycroft said:
Is it that you honestly can't think of any examples? Or are you just trolling to get someone to personalize the arguments again?
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I politely decline to attempt to find examples that justify wildcats claim. That should be a job for wildcat....and yourself if you want too....can you come up with examples of support for Hamas on this forum that he is whining about?
 
The Fool said:
I politely decline to attempt to find examples that justify wildcats claim. That should be a job for wildcat....and yourself if you want too....can you come up with examples of support for Hamas on this forum that he is whining about?
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How about Bikerdruid claiming that they are freedom fighters?
 
WildCat said:
When was I whining about people on this forum supporting Hamas? :confused:

I've certainly said some here (you for instance) support Hamas getting a seaport, but I really think you have the cognitive dissonance required to believe this isn't helping Hamas get heavy weapons, and therefore you aren't supporting Hamas.
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ok....you seem to be unable to find any examples....so can we expect you to cease sluring people as "hamas suporters"??
 
trustbutverify said:
The words we choose to apply to individuals and groups are a function of how we feel about them. You know this. We all use words and labels as rewards to those we support and weapons against those we don't.

If i refer to Urgun as freedom fighters it almost certainly means that I identify with and support them. If I use the label terrorist it's the opposite.

If i ask someone if they would vote for a political party which was deeply racist against jews and advocated genocidal policies against them- if they also advocated economic policies that person loved, and they answered "I'm not sure.", well- to me that's a powerful indicator about where that person is coming from.
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so refering to groups as "freedom fighters" that have performed terrorist acts......thats a powerful indicator of where a person is coming from?

If its in relation to...for example....the stern gang? Where does it indicate you are coming from if you described them as "freedom fighters"?


see, the point I am trying to make and I think you understand is that this is a complex subject that Wildcat et al wish to reduce to slogan chanting.
 
Giz said:
How about Bikerdruid claiming that they are freedom fighters?
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How about you quote it and we can check it for factual and contextual match.....of course you would have to list all the things you want to equate it to.....all that driving Jews into the sea, butchering babies....all that stuff "skeptic" likes to rant about.

hey....maybe you could even check with Bikerdruid to confirm your understanding (or not) :)
 
The Fool said:
I politely decline to attempt to find examples that justify wildcats claim.
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What claim was that The Fool? Can you link to it?

The Fool said:
ok....you seem to be unable to find any examples....so can we expect you to cease sluring people as "hamas suporters"??
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Examples of what The Fool? Is this really all you've got left, making stuff up and hoping no one notices?
 
WildCat said:
What claim was that The Fool? Can you link to it?


Examples of what The Fool? Is this really all you've got left, making stuff up and hoping no one notices?
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fog and mirrors....give us some examples of people expressing support for Hamas... or not (your choice) but spare us the handwaving.
 
The Fool said:
fog and mirrors....give us some examples of people expressing support for Hamas... or not (your choice) but spare us the handwaving.
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I already gave an example. Remember the video of Galloway and his cheering minions?
 
WildCat said:
Are you sticking with your maxim that the side that kills more in a war is the aggressor and a "murderous repressive regime"?

Or do you admit your maxim is horse[feces]?
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bikerdruid? Any time you want to join the discussion...
 
bikerdruid said:
whadya wanna talk about?:)
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Ziggurat said:
And what, exactly, do you think that struggle consists of? Please, enlighten us. Because it sure as hell looks to me like this "struggle" consists primarily of terrorist attacks. So I'm having a hard time viewing your statement as being 'anti-war', let along anything other than support for terrorism.
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Still waiting...
 
bikerdruid said:
yes.
israel is a murderous and oppressive regime.
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On what do you base this on? Last time you claimed it was because they killed more Palestinians than Palestinians killed Israelis, but you are no longer making that ridiculous claim, are you?
 
WildCat said:
On what do you base this on? Last time you claimed it was because they killed more Palestinians than Palestinians killed Israelis, but you are no longer making that ridiculous claim, are you?
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that is certainly a damn good start.
israels history of aggression against her neighbours; the recent over-reaction on its borders with syria, and the subsequent deaths of many syrian protestors;
the murder of relief volunteers aboard the gazan relief ship and the continued expansions into palestinain territories, all clearly indicate the truth.

wave hands all you wish.....the truth is that israel is a nasty, treacherous, murderous nation.
 
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