Moonbat alert: Chomksy condemns Bin Laden kill.

Hitchens vs. Chomsky Part II Episode 4:

http://www.guernicamag.com/blog/2716/christopher_hitchens_refutatio/

Hitchens is mostly concerned about Chomsky's assertion that Hitchens had said that the al-Shifa bombing was a worse war crime than 9/11.

In Hitchens vs. Chomsky Part I, which happened just after 9/11, Hitchens and Chomsky were mostly arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin how 9/11 compares in terms of numbers of deaths to the bombing of the al-Shifa plant by Clinton.

Remember that Hitchens was a staunch anti-Clinton leftist back in the nineties to the extent that many of his fellow leftists thought Hitchens was almost at the loony fringe. The bombing of al-Shifa was considered to be responsible for maybe tens of thousands of deaths according to some estimates and Hitchens did seem keen to accept the worst case scenario from the bombing because it was all the better to condemn Clinton with.

I can only imagine that that is what Chomsky was referring to when he said that Hitchens believes the al-Shifa bombing was worse than 9/11. But Hitchens has never explicitly said anything like that and further doesn't like to be called a Stalinist commisar.
 
Chomsky calls everyone a Stalinist commissar.

Or a Nazi depending on his mood.
 
UWdude said:
damaging to myself?

lol

Who the hell do you think is reading all this crap?

This is just an argument on the internet between about a dozen people who will never agree. Like on every other board on the internet.

There is nothing I could say that would ever change your mind, and visa versa. And all your pontificating and false senses of moral superiority or maturity will never change that, nor do I see it as anything but more flames from a troll.

Just because you declare yourself noble or mature doesn't make it so. You are just a monkey flinging poo like everyone else here. You are just under the delusion that your poo-flinging is somehow more mature. But you don't fool me, and you don't fool anyone, except perhaps the monkeys on your side flinging the poo at the monkeys on our side.
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did you just poo-poo his poo-poo?
 
Virus said:
Chomsky calls everyone a Stalinist commissar.

Or a Nazi depending on his mood.
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Whenever I thought of Commissars, i thought of someone waiting behind lines of Imperial guardsmen on some distant planet shooting troops who quivered in the face of Chaos/Necrons/Orks/etc or for not saying "hail to the emperor!" loud enough. :D
 
I guess the main point here is that the "fair trials is one of the things our great free and fair nation is all about"-Government simply assassinated Bin Laden, a method you rather would think rouge nations would do.

As far my impression goes, they didn't want him to speak in a courtroom - out of several political reasons. But if Obama seriously believes that his quick death due to a bullet into an unarmed mans head is "what he deserved", I guess it may be his head that has to be examined, no?
 
Targeted kills of key terrorist leaders and logistics personnel have been going on since the war started. That's how you take out a terrorist organization.

In a war, you're supposed to kill the enemy.
 
Virus said:
Targeted kills of key terrorist leaders and logistics personnel have been going on since the war started. That's how you take out a terrorist organization.

In a war, you're supposed to kill the enemy.
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Seriously. What part of that do these people not understand?
 
He was a military target and the chances of a jihadist rigging a suicide bomb in his house in case of a raid seems extraordinarily high. If he had put his hands up and surrendered they would not have shot him, at least that's what Panetta said, so it's time to go home and stop complaining. Actually there really wasn't a better way to go about it, what were they supposed to do, surround them and ask him to come out nicely? The practicalities of the situation are so obvious yes you need to give your head a shake if this bothers you.
 
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Joey McGee said:
He was a military target and the chances of a jihadist rigging a suicide bomb in his house in case of a raid seems extraordinarily high.
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Why?

If he had put his hands up and surrendered they would not have shot him, at least that's what Panetta said,...
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Oh, it must be true, then.
 
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It would have been just as justified to whack Hitler during WW2. Although I believe the Allies abandonded that idea because Hitler did such a horrible job managing the war. Just so I am not a hypocrit, I believe that Obama is also a legitimate target for our enemies. Of course, the chances of that happening are very low and I hope it doesn't since I am not on the side of the bad guys.
 
And: Bush`s order indeed killed more than a hundred times more people than 9/11 did: However, that wasn't relevant for him and his supporters when the decision was made, nor will it matter to all of them after this thread will fade into the forums history.

Even if another Osama comes around "paying back".
 
dtugg said:
Seriously. What part of that do these people not understand?
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I'd be happy enough to dispatch with the moral arguments either way. I mean, I can easily say, "Who gives a rat's ass about bin Laden?"

I do see some other concerns here though. This has thrown up a lot of questions about how much the ISI and Pakistan's military and its government knew of Osama bin Laden's whereabouts. Well, one person who could have told the US quite a lot about that is now sleeping with the fishes. He himself was a tremendously useful intelligence source and he's now dead.
 
Oliver said:
I guess the main point here is that the "fair trials is one of the things our great free and fair nation is all about"-Government simply assassinated Bin Laden, a method you rather would think rouge nations would do.
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Rouge nations, like China?
 
Oliver said:
I guess the main point here is that the "fair trials is one of the things our great free and fair nation is all about"-Government simply assassinated Bin Laden, a method you rather would think rouge nations would do.
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Fair trials is only one of the things our nation is all about. Another one, obviously, is shooting people in the face and dumping them in the ocean. Which aspect of America you experience probably has a lot to do with whether or not you're Osama Bin Laden.

And fair trials aren't the only way to get fair treatment from the government. Sometimes, the fairest treatment is for the government to just leave you alone. Other times, the fairest treatment is for the government to kill you. That last option is called "war", by the way. Maybe you've heard of it?

Was there anything unfair about the way the US government treated Bin Laden, that night in Abbottabad? I don't think so.
 
theprestige said:
Was there anything unfair about the way the US government treated Bin Laden, that night in Abbottabad? I don't think so.
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He received the death jihadists claim to want. He was a combatant. I don't know see how that's unfair.
 
theprestige said:
Fair trials is only one of the things our nation is all about. Another one, obviously, is shooting people in the face and dumping them in the ocean. Which aspect of America you experience probably has a lot to do with whether or not you're Osama Bin Laden.

And fair trials aren't the only way to get fair treatment from the government. Sometimes, the fairest treatment is for the government to just leave you alone. Other times, the fairest treatment is for the government to kill you. That last option is called "war", by the way. Maybe you've heard of it?

Was there anything unfair about the way the US government treated Bin Laden, that night in Abbottabad? I don't think so.
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