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Moon Landing Conspiracy

Totovader said:
Penn Jillette had the guy from badastronomer on (same guy in the ******** episode on Conspiracies) talking with the host of Fear Factor.

I know, it sounds like a weird combination- but Rogan (the guy from Fear Factor) is a conspiracy theorist ONLY on the moon hoax- and is otherwise a very rational individual. To hear him go at it with the guy from badastronomer makes a GOOD show.

I highly suggest listening to it, it's a good discussion.
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What i have heard (don't know if it is true) is that the moon hoax is something Joe Rogan treats as a joke.
 
Grimes said:
"Fear Factor" host and, to my surprise, all-around CT nut Joe Rogan
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I've been under the impression that although Joe Rogan is quite familiar and knowledgable about many CTs, that he doesn't actually believe in any of them. (That is to say, like many JREFers he knows lots about them because he's entertained by the idiocy and sheer lunacy that surrounds them).
 
Mr.D said:
I've been under the impression that although Joe Rogan is quite familiar and knowledgable about many CTs, that he doesn't actually believe in any of them. (That is to say, like many JREFers he knows lots about them because he's entertained by the idiocy and sheer lunacy that surrounds them).
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Want some lunacy here? Check out Lyte Trip's latest posts in his pentacon thread :)
 
Arus808 said:
The hardest part of "getting" to the moon was the actual take off from Earth and re=entering the earth's atmosphere at the end.
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Nope.

As just one example, actually "soft" landing on the moon given the fuel reserves of the lander was a BIG deal. They came within seconds of aborting the mission. And whether the moon surface itself was a viable landing place was also in doubt.
 
The Moon CT people claim that the exposure to cosmic rays would have killed the astronauts with radiation. In a sense they are right, and there was extreme personal risk involved in the missions.

To this day all the astronauts who made the journey are tested by NASA and will continue to be tested on an annual basis. It is thought that at least some of them will sufffer from cancers brought on by the trip.

This danger was never hidden from these men, and is but a small tribute to each of them that they took on the task, knowing the potential health issues.

Someone mentioned the landing of Apollo 11 - If you listen carefully to the radio transmissions during the last 20 seconds or so of the orginal landing. A small beeping sound can be heard. This is the fuel warning alarm.

A couple of years ago a guy by the name of Sebrel (Who is kinda like our version of Dylan Avery) stalked and asaulted Buzz Aldrin and at one point accosted him coming out of a hotel.

Buzz, over 70 at this stage, displayed the sort of right stuff you need to go to the Moon and flattened Sebrel with one punch :catfight:
 
The best demolition of Moon Hoax CTers you will ever see is from Jay Utah over at Bautforum - the same chap who runs the clavicus (sp?) debunking site and I think actually might be a rocket scientist (or at least top-notch engineer).
 
Doesn't the fact that there are laser reflectors on the moon and the 5 other moon landings debunk their claim? I mean how stupid can a human be?
 
Grimes said:
Phil Plait debated the topic with "Fear Factor" host and, to my surprise, all-around CT nut Joe Rogan on Penn's radio show. It doesn't go very deep, though they are allowed the whole hour, and Rogan manages to keep Phil on his toes for some of the topics.

The link to the podcast is on this page: badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/02/06/talkin-to-penn-schoolin-joe-rogan-part-ii/

A fun listen even if it's ultimately a meaningless debate.
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Ooops- didn't notice you already posted this... sorry.
 
MG1962 said:
The Moon CT people claim that the exposure to cosmic rays would have killed the astronauts with radiation. In a sense they are right, and there was extreme personal risk involved in the missions.

To this day all the astronauts who made the journey are tested by NASA and will continue to be tested on an annual basis. It is thought that at least some of them will sufffer from cancers brought on by the trip.

This danger was never hidden from these men, and is but a small tribute to each of them that they took on the task, knowing the potential health issues.
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Correct. Solar weather is an important concern for any astronaut. It was believed, during Apollo, that a major solar flare could be fatal to the crew if it occurred during their mission. However, there were none, and the Apollo missions were short enough in duration to make a fairly confident solar prediction and adjust schedules as needed.

Shuttle and the ISS orbit low enough to avoid the Van Allen belts, and are shielded by the Earth's magnetic field, though they too can be affected by solar weather. But as we start reaching further out again, we will again have to contend with this issue.
 
The best demolition of Moon Hoax CTers you will ever see is from Jay Utah over at Bautforum - the same chap who runs the clavicus (sp?) debunking site and I think actually might be a rocket scientist (or at least top-notch engineer).
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He is an aeronautics engineer out of Salt Lake City. Kinda like the Moon Hoax version of Gravy. And definately a go to man. Proved a UFO photo was hoaxed, because the headrest of the seat caught in the edge of the photo was incorrect lol - It scares me to think he might have known that off the top of his head.

This is his website http://www.clavius.org/index.html Named after the fictonal moonbase in 2001
 
~enigma~ said:
Doesn't the SAA come into play on some of the orbits?
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Yes, it does. There's a humorous discussion of the South Atlantic Anomaly and its effects on the International Space Station here.

The upshot is that the ISS has some additional shielding, but because it doesn't dwell in the Anomaly for very long, its effect on astronauts is manageable. The Shuttle generally stays in lower inclination orbits and misses the Anomaly altogether, except during ISS servicing missions.

Radiation is much worse physiologically if you're forced to stay in it, as any astronaut on a long journey away from Earth will be.
 
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R.Mackey said:
Yes, it does. There's a humorous discussion of the South Atlantic Anomaly and its effects on the International Space Station here.

The upshot is that the ISS has some additional shielding, but because it doesn't dwell in the Anomaly for very long, its effect on astronauts is manageable. The Shuttle generally stays in lower inclination orbits and misses the Anomaly altogether, except during ISS servicing missions.

Radiation is much worse physiologically if you're forced to stay in it, as any astronaut on a long journey away from Earth will be.
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Thanks for that link. Fred is kinda weird :)
 
Last night I heard the second installment of the Joe Rogan/Phil Plait debate on the moon landing hoax. Joe uses the normal techniques we see from people arguing from ignorance. He consistently talks over Phil, doesn't let him answer a challenge before interrupting, and brings in unrelated, insignificant arguments. Honestly, a disturbing debate. One of his main points was that Werner Von Braun was a Nazi, war criminal therefore the government of the United States and the space program cannot be trusted. (???).

It was disappointing that Penn allowed Joe to consistently interrupt Phil and wouldn't let him get his point across. Joe was overly aggressive and, in spite of his constant statements to the contrary, really goes out of his way to make the conspiracy case.
 
AZAtheist said:
One of his main points was that Werner Von Braun was a Nazi, war criminal therefore the government of the United States and the space program cannot be trusted.
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Does that mean World War II never really happened?
 
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