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Moon Landing Conspiracy

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I was reading some material on astronomy and I had a really confusing and somewhat disturbing thought. Do all of the people that believe the moon landing was a hoax claim all other astronomical knowledge is false and that ALL astronomers throughout the world are in on the moon landing hoax or do they accept astronomical knowledge and just deny the moon landing? If the answer is the second then how do they reconcile the fact that we have knowledge of events billions of light years away when the moon is just a quarter million miles away? In the case of the first answer, are they stupider than the 9/11 woowoos?
 
what i dont understand is how they think that we couldn't land on the moon? yet be able to orbit earth? go into space? all that time prior to landing on the moon.

what makes it a "far stretch" to landing on the moon from going into space?
 
That's why I'm asking Arus. I can't comprehend the mentality of someone that denies the moon landing. At least with 9/11 it is obvious why some people have hallucinations.
 
That's the thing with these conspirators, they won't cut corners. If they needed to actually build rockets capable of landing men on the moon to maintain their false-moonshot plan's cover, then they went all out and really built it. Hey, they must have sent someone there earlier to plant those laser reflector units, that's how dedicated to authenticity they were.
 
Rich M said:
That's the thing with these conspirators, they won't cut corners. If they needed to actually build rockets capable of landing men on the moon to maintain their false-moonshot plan's cover, then they went all out and really built it. Hey, they must have sent someone there earlier to plant those laser reflector units, that's how dedicated to authenticity they were.
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Ok....get out of my damn head. The laser reflectors are the main reason I asked this question.
 
jhunter1163 said:
I think they just deny the landing. They see it as a ploy to one-up those godless Commies. I think they should all ask Buzz Aldrin about it. He had the best answer I've seen to ANY conspiracy theory.
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Yeah but as Rich brought up...how do they explain the laser reflectors that were put on the moon or are the astronomers working with those in on the hoax but the rest of astronomy is ok? More I think about it the crazier they seem. Maybe Penn was right and the "V" on that idiots bottle really meant vodka.
 
I would be hard-pressed to find an Apollo hoax believer who doesn't think 911 was an inside job, and vise versa.

Surely, a government who would fake the moon landings would fake 911 as well, right?

Right?
 
I would refer you to "Bad Astronomy", the website of Phil Plait, who roundly hits the "Apollo=hoax" buffoons around the head with the hammer of truth. And also the Aulis website, which kills all hoax assertions stone dead with cold hard logic and fact.

I'm more familiar with the Apollo-hoax proponents that the 9-11 ones, but certain tropes and attitudes from one manifest in the other. "Batsh*t insane" is one common component. Oh - Jim Oberg is another touchstone for rocketry truth.
 
Phil Plait debated the topic with "Fear Factor" host and, to my surprise, all-around CT nut Joe Rogan on Penn's radio show. It doesn't go very deep, though they are allowed the whole hour, and Rogan manages to keep Phil on his toes for some of the topics.

The link to the podcast is on this page: badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/02/06/talkin-to-penn-schoolin-joe-rogan-part-ii/

A fun listen even if it's ultimately a meaningless debate.
 
Alt+F4 said:
They make up lies regarding the Van Allen Radiation Belt.
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I wonder if a moon hoaxer woowoo has ever looked at the old Universal Studios logo and noticed the HUGE holes in the belt over the poles. Not to mention that the Gemini program measured the radiation inside a spacecraft in the Van Allen Belt and found it safe for humans. Besides, doesn't the shuttle go through the belt every 5-6 orbits or so anway? I didn't notice any shuttle pilot dying of radiation poisoning or even getting sick from the radiation.
 
Ahhh.... After all the batshiat crazy lunacy surrounding the 9/11 troofers, a nice Apollo denier thread is quite refreshing.
 
Arus808 said:
what i dont understand is how they think that we couldn't land on the moon? yet be able to orbit earth? go into space? all that time prior to landing on the moon.

what makes it a "far stretch" to landing on the moon from going into space?
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I'm not here to defend the bats**t crazies (to quote FramerDave) but I think there is a HUGE difference between going into Earth orbit and going to the moon and (what is equally important) coming back. Arguing that the two are roughly the same serves the crazies, not the reality-based community.
 
why is there a "big" difference. There isn't much gravity on the moon, meaning that they wouldn't need a big payload of rocket fuel to get off of it.

The hardest part of "getting" to the moon was the actual take off from Earth and re=entering the earth's atmosphere at the end.
 
Arus808 said:
why is there a "big" difference. There isn't much gravity on the moon, meaning that they wouldn't need a big payload of rocket fuel to get off of it.
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you've got to get there first

The hardest part of "getting" to the moon was the actual take off from Earth and re=entering the earth's atmosphere at the end.
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Only because they had to get all the stuff they needed latter on off the earth.
 
Penn Jillette had the guy from badastronomer on (same guy in the ******** episode on Conspiracies) talking with the host of Fear Factor.

I know, it sounds like a weird combination- but Rogan (the guy from Fear Factor) is a conspiracy theorist ONLY on the moon hoax- and is otherwise a very rational individual. To hear him go at it with the guy from badastronomer makes a GOOD show.

I highly suggest listening to it, it's a good discussion.
 
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