Merged moon hoax not / debunking video

[Baffled]

Have you "disliked" those videos? (or whatever Youtube calls it)

Some more than once. Which seems a bit weird -- I thought I could only dislike something once.

 

[BazBear]

Have you "disliked" those videos? (or whatever Youtube calls it)

Disliking them doesn't seem to always work. But now that I think of it, I'm subscribed to some documentary-type channels that carry some woo, so maybe that's why I still get some of those recommendations.

 

[littleelvira]

I was at a Chris Botti Concert of all places and overheard these guys talking moon hoax. So one guy says to two other guys the whole space thing was fake because he studied the Gemini flights and one flight went 14 days and this guy wrote to NASA and asked how they pooped and peed for 14 days in the small Gemini cabin which is very tiny and NASA wrote back and said the astronauts never took off their space suit so this person concluded the space missions could not be real because no way these guys could go 2 weeks like that. I kept thinking of that through the whole concert. Two weeks pooping in the space suit. So when I went home I found out they said they were in space two weeks. I tried to write to NASA myself but they never wrote back to me. Does anybody know if the Gemini astronauts on one mission really were in the same spacesuit for 2 weeks and pooped and peed in the suit the whole time? I'm not kidding and hoping to get an answer here.

 

[Reactor drone]

I was at a Chris Botti Concert of all places and overheard these guys talking moon hoax. So one guy says to two other guys the whole space thing was fake because he studied the Gemini flights and one flight went 14 days and this guy wrote to NASA and asked how they pooped and peed for 14 days in the small Gemini cabin which is very tiny and NASA wrote back and said the astronauts never took off their space suit so this person concluded the space missions could not be real because no way these guys could go 2 weeks like that. I kept thinking of that through the whole concert. Two weeks pooping in the space suit. So when I went home I found out they said they were in space two weeks. I tried to write to NASA myself but they never wrote back to me. Does anybody know if the Gemini astronauts on one mission really were in the same spacesuit for 2 weeks and pooped and peed in the suit the whole time? I'm not kidding and hoping to get an answer here.

They took off their suits during the mission,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_7

 

[littleelvira]

They took off their suits during the mission,

Can't find anything about the pooping. Sort of implies they took off the suits, but not clear at all if clear in the least bit. Thanks for trying. I'll look some more.

 

[BazBear]

Can't find anything about the pooping. Sort of implies they took off the suits, but not clear at all if clear in the least bit. Thanks for trying. I'll look some more.

You can find that info in this PDF, Manned Spacecraft Waste Disposal Systems, NASA-TM-X-1851, beginning at the bottom of page 7.

Defecation and Vomitus

A defecation system was required for the extended flights of the Gemini Program, although (as during Mercury preflight preparations) Gemini crewmen were fed a low residue diet to minimize the total volume of defecation accumulated.

The defecation system consisted of a flexible plastic bag (fig. 12), the open end of which had a sticky surface used to seal the bag to the buttocks. A germicidal agent (a mixture of sodium orthophenyphenol and sodium chloraphenyphenol dissolved in propylene glycol and stained with amaplast blue LXP) and tissues were provided in a pocket on the bag. After use, the .bag was sealed and stored in a waste container. Although use of the defecation bag required considerable dexterity and time, the system was considered to be adequate.

 

[littleelvira]

That is what I was looking for more or less. I knew they couldn't keep the suit on for 2 weeks.

 

[Steve001]

Moon Landings Fake Filmmaker Say Not / Video

A terrific vid.
"Writer/director S G Collins of Postwar Media debunks every theory that the Apollo Moon landings could have been faked in a studio. The filmmaker takes a look at the video technology of the late 1960's, showing alleged fraud was simply not possible. "
http://www.space.com/19531-moon-landings-faked-filmmaker-says-not-video.html

 

[nomuse]

There's an excellent (for certain values of the word) description of the process in Stephen Baxter's "Titan." I'm led to believe there is an entire chapter in a recent book from a still-active American astronaut (can't remember her name or title of the book, sorry).

 

[littleelvira]

You can find that info in this

Sorry BazBear, should have explained more. My brother and I got activated when we heard that business at the Chriss Botti Concert. Reason being we learned about John Young and the sandwich business. Now the engineers were upset about that because the claim was the crumbs could muck up the works. They made a big deal about it. If they take off their suits and poop in the bag, then those poop crumbs could do likewise. We wrote to NASA about it and they blew us off. Might mean something. Thanks for your reference.

 

[nomuse]

But...of course!....and that might mean....they could all get dysentery!

My dog, you've opened our eyes at last -- the moon landing must be a hoax!

 

[tsig]

But...of course!....and that might mean....they could all get dysentery!

My dog, you've opened our eyes at last -- the moon landing must be a hoax!

True who would possibly go to the moon if it meant they might get sick. Test pilot who risk their lives quail before a speck of poop.

 

[X]

Seems legit.

Why are we talking about Patrick1000?
He was a scatalogically-obsessed, ineducable, lying moron of no consequence to anyone and who is best forgotten.



I have a more general comment:

There has been some discussion about how old film/video cameras operated, in regards to moving the film.

I have a vintage video camera at home. A Pathe Webo M from the '50s. It's not electric, instead it is powered by a wind-up spring (clockwork, in other words). Or it can be run directly from the crank.
If there's interest, I can take some detailed pictures of the drive mechanisms and even some video.
I'll add a couple pics below for you guys to see if it would be of interest. If it's obviously completely different in every way from the cameras in question, then I won't worry about taking the pictures.

 

[BazBear]

Sorry BazBear, should have explained more. My brother and I got activated when we heard that business at the Chriss Botti Concert. Reason being we learned about John Young and the sandwich business. Now the engineers were upset about that because the claim was the crumbs could muck up the works. They made a big deal about it. If they take off their suits and poop in the bag, then those poop crumbs could do likewise. We wrote to NASA about it and they blew us off. Might mean something. Thanks for your reference.

Then again it might not mean anything.

Odd, for some reason I keep getting the funny feeling your brother is a pretty good guitar player. Ehhh, that probably doesn't mean anything either.

 

[Erock]

Once people have seen the clip of the flag waving because of the breeze cause by the astronaut's approach, there's really nothing any of you pro-Apollo people can do to make them think the Apollo footage was really taken on the moon.

Wait.... what?

You say his approach caused a breeze? What does a supertanker do then, cause a hurricane?

And how in hell does the breeze arrive before he does

Experiment even FF88 can try at his internet cafe(make sure nobody is watching, they may think you're a bit mad) :

Wet your right hand palm. Bring your left hand to clap it as fast as you can and stop just before contact. The air arrives at the same time as your hand.

Simple.

 

[LashL]

Several posts moved to AAH. Please, do not make sockpuppet allegations in threads. Instead, just report a post and your suspicions to the Mod Team.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LashL

 

[littleelvira]

Then again it might not mean anything.

Odd, for some reason I keep getting the funny feeling your brother is a pretty good guitar player. Ehhh, that probably doesn't mean anything either.

My brother does play guitar but not very well.

Here's my original idea, I'll put the question to you. Since this was added to the Al Shepard Moon Shot book in the 2011 publication;


“Where were the stars?” the myth believers then asked. The cameras that NASA sent to the moon had to use short-exposure times to take pictures of the bright lunar surface and the moonwalkers’ white spacesuits. Stars’ images, easily seen by the moonwalkers, were too faint and underexposed to be seen as they are in photographs taken from space shuttles and the International Space Station."

and since it contradicts Neil Armstrong and all of the other astronauts including Shepard's own LM pilot partner Ed Mitchell, I believe the appearance of this "patch" in the official story fabric of lies not only proves the case for hoax, but also identifies its author unquestionably as a conspirator. Emphasis on the fact that the "author" may well not be Shepard, Slayton, Armstrong, Barbree, the authors listed on the book's cover.

 

[JayUtah]

Since this was added to the Al Shepard Moon Shot book in the 2011 publication...

Asked and answered.

 

[littleelvira]

Asked and answered.

No one has answered that question. Who was it that was responsible for this;


“Where were the stars?” the myth believers then asked. The cameras that NASA sent to the moon had to use short-exposure times to take pictures of the bright lunar surface and the moonwalkers’ white spacesuits. Stars’ images, easily seen by the moonwalkers, were too faint and underexposed to be seen as they are in photographs taken from space shuttles and the International Space Station."

I claim Shepard did not "write" it as it contradicts everything written and said on the subject prior. I claim its author is an Apollo hoax conspirator.

I'll ask you straight away Jay. Who do you think wrote it?

 

[JayUtah]

No one has answered that question. Who was it that was responsible for this;

You are the only one making claims regarding the identity and authority of this author. Your conclusions are the ones resting on both those points. Therefore you have the burden to prove the author has appropriate authority. Requiring your critics to state and defend some counterargument is inappropriate. You have the burden of proof.

I claim Shepard did not "write" it as it contradicts everything written and said on the subject prior.

Already discussed at length. You have a set of straw-man beliefs to which you are tenaciously clinging. Your critics are not compelled to accept your premises without proof.

I claim its author is an Apollo hoax conspirator.

Your claim, your burden of proof.

I'll ask you straight away Jay. Who do you think wrote it?

Shifting the burden of proof. You claim it was written by a "hoax conspirator," and that this somehow proves Apollo was a hoax. You are making the specific, affirmative claim. You have the burden of proof.