[Moderated]List Of NYC Firefighters Who Think Bombs Brought Down The Towers

[WildCat]

In another thread Dictator Cheney, in an attempt to show that firefighters know there were bombs in the towers, wrote:

sure it come from the scene, like the firefighters.
[URL="http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf"]http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf[/URL]

So this thread is for him or any other truther to list the names of firefighters on the scene who believe it was bombs that caused the towers to collapse and killed hundreds of their fellow firefighters.

Ready? Go!

 

[DC]

In another thread Dictator Cheney, in an attempt to show that firefighters know there were bombs in the towers, wrote:


So this thread is for him or any other truther to list the names of firefighters on the scene who believe it was bombs that caused the towers to collapse and killed hundreds of their fellow firefighters.

Ready? Go!

you claimed "None of these firefighters belive bombs brought down the towers"
can you backup that claim?

 

[WildCat]

you claimed "None of these firefighters belive bombs brought down the towers"
can you backup that claim?

Please list them, can you do that?

 

[fuelair]

None, I am guessing. But, I am predjudiced in that I was watching the news from shortly after the announcement of the first hit - and fireman are generally intelligent - other than that rushing into burning buildings to save people thing which needs more than intelligence.

 

[DC]

Please list them, can you do that?

you claimed non of them belives that bombs brought down the towers. i never claimed they belive that or belive the contrary.
so its actually up to you to backup your claim, you claimed that none of them blives that. so i guess you have interviews with those ppl where they clearly state, they dont belive it, or atleast interviews that reflect theyr belives.

 

[DC]

None, I am guessing. But, I am predjudiced in that I was watching the news from shortly after the announcement of the first hit - and fireman are generally intelligent - other than that rushing into burning buildings to save people thing which needs more than intelligence.

those ppl can estimate the risk very well, and even at high risk they risk theyr lives daily for a lousy payment, but they do because they belive/know its the right thing to do.

 

[boloboffin]

The claim is yours, DictatorCheney. Please read the OP again.

 

[WildCat]

you claimed non of them belives that bombs brought down the towers. i never claimed they belive that or belive the contrary.
so its actually up to you to backup your claim, you claimed that none of them blives that. so i guess you have interviews with those ppl where they clearly state, they dont belive it, or atleast interviews that reflect theyr belives.

Is it your contention that they do believe there were bombs in the towers, but don't care enough to bother bringing their claims public?

 

[DC]

Is it your contention that they do believe there were bombs in the towers, but don't care enough to bother bringing their claims public?

no, i never said that they do belive bombs brought down the towers. i did not even claim what they heard where indeed bombs or explosives.

your anwer to my link to the testimonies that reported explosions and such, was your claim that none of them belives the towers was brought down with bombs.

not me claiming anything , its actually you that claimed something. something you cannot backup most propably.

 

[WildCat]

no, i never said that they do belive bombs brought down the towers. i did not even claim what they heard where indeed bombs or explosives.

your anwer to my link to the testimonies that reported explosions and such, was your claim that none of them belives the towers was brought down with bombs.

not me claiming anything , its actually you that claimed something. something you cannot backup most propably.

Let's recap:

Problem is the information about 9/11 didn't come from Bush's mouth. It came from people who were at crash sites: scientists, investigators, clean up crew, and eyewitnesses.

no really, i thaught already that the witness report of a guy that claims to have seen the first impact in tv, and after second hit, he keeps reading books with kids. was not very usefull indeed.

sure it come from the scene, like the firefighters.
[URL]http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf[/URL]

You are claiming that everything we know about 9/11 is from what the government (Bush) tells us, while I and others were contending that most of it comes from other sources. You then link to a JONES paper which attempts to show that firefighters heard explosions, and that these explosions were what really brought down the towers - the implied assumption is that the explosions were bombs.

So why aren't there any firefighters who were on the scene who assert that bombs brought down the towers?

 

[DC]

Let's recap:





You are claiming that everything we know about 9/11 is from what the government (Bush) tells us, while I and others were contending that most of it comes from other sources. You then link to a JONES paper which attempts to show that firefighters heard explosions, and that these explosions were what really brought down the towers - the implied assumption is that the explosions were bombs.

So why aren't there any firefighters who were on the scene who assert that bombs brought down the towers?

th government = bush ?
not for me. The Gevernment has no official theory as such. what is considered the officil theory is FEMA NIST NTSB 9/11-Commission reports.
and the 9/11 Commission is the one report covering all the events of 9/11, more or less.

i have no clue why you think i would claim that all those firefighters that reported things that sounded like explosions, actually belive the towers where brought down with bombs.

actually i know only of 1 firefighter , John schroeder, that claims the towers was brought down in a controlled demolition. and i dont even know if that guy in that interview is a firefighter. thats why i normaly dont bring him up in a debate. and in regards of your claim, he is not on the list of "explosive" testimonies.

but still you claimed none of them belives it. and i wonder on what you base that on.
i got asked for evidence here often already, now i do it. what is your evidence for your claim "none of them belives the towers was brought down by bombs"

because none of those ppl came out and sayd they belive it? or can you really backup that claim?

 

[WildCat]

i have no clue why you think i would claim that all those firefighters that reported things that sounded like explosions, actually belive the towers where brought down with bombs.

It's the truth movement that claims the explosions firefighters heard were bombs.

because none of those ppl came out and sayd they belive it? or can you really backup that claim?

I can't prove a negative. Should be simple to list those who claim bombs brought down the towers, yes?

 

[DC]

It's the truth movement that claims the explosions firefighters heard were bombs.


I can't prove a negative. Should be simple to list those who claim bombs brought down the towers, yes?

but to claim non of those ppl belive the towers was brought down by bombs was ok?
you dont know what they belive. i really wonder why you claimed it.
afaik none of those ppl came public and claimed the towers was brought down by bombs.

 

[Bananaman]

DictatorCheney, I don't often have a go at people for the way they write, but can you please learn to do so.

Throw away your cell phone, stop using text speak, buy a dictionary and stop giving us all a headache. OK?

Bananaman.

 

[WildCat]

but to claim non of those ppl belive the towers was brought down by bombs was ok?
you dont know what they belive. i really wonder why you claimed it.
afaik none of those ppl came public and claimed the towers was brought down by bombs.

Let me rephrase that: I have no evidence that any firefighters there that day think there were bombs in the towers. Happy?

Now, do you have evidence that any do think there were?

 

[DC]

Let me rephrase that: I have no evidence that any firefighters there that day think there were bombs in the towers. Happy?

Now, do you have evidence that any do think there were?

like i sayd, no i have not, i never claimed it.

 

[DC]

DictatorCheney, I don't often have a go at people for the way they write, but can you please learn to do so.

Throw away your cell phone, stop using text speak, buy a dictionary and stop giving us all a headache. OK?

Bananaman.

english is not my first lang.
i hate sms.
online dictionarys are faster and for free.
ignore my posts when you cant understand it. im sorry. my english is only as good as it is, not good

 

[WildCat]

like i sayd, no i have not, i never claimed it.

So you don't think there were bombs in the towers, or you do think there were bombs but all the people there somehow didn't notice them?

 

[Dumb All Over]

....
actually i know only of 1 firefighter , John schroeder, that claims the towers was brought down in a controlled demolition....

Without reviewing that video of a firefighter complaining of the treatment all firefighters received after 9-11, I don't actually recall if John Schroeder ever said any such thing. Please correct me if I'm wrong and point to the section where he says the buildings collapsed by means of controlled demolition.

 

[TC329]

here's a hero some scumbags won't pass up the opportunity to attack :

On the morning of September 11, 2005, New York City auxiliary fire lieutenant Paul Isaac, Jr. admitted that 9-11 was an inside job. “I know 9-11 was an inside job, the police know it’s an inside job, and the firemen know it too.”

“New York firemen were very upset by what they considered a cover-up in the WTC destruction. Many other firemen knew there were bombs in the buildings,’ he said, ‘but they are afraid for their jobs to admit it because the higher-ups forbid discussion of this fact.’ Isaac, who was stationed at Engine 10 near the WTC in the late 1990s, said the higher-ups included the NYFD’s antiterrorism consultant, James Woolsey, a former CIA director. ‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ Isaac added.”

“It’s amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,”