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[Moderated]Hypothetical Million Dollar Winner

maatorc said:
No, this is absolutely not what I have said or am saying.
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Then please clarify what is different about psi-esp such that it exhibits no phenonmena. If it helps, pick a particular supposed psi-esp to use as an example.
 
Maatorc, it furthers no purpose, teaching another about your ideas or otherwise, to tersely assert without any explanation, repetitious or not. You might as well not even post such replies - why bother?
 
Paul2 said:
Maatorc, it furthers no purpose, teaching another about your ideas or otherwise, to tersely assert without any explanation, repetitious or not. You might as well not even post such replies - why bother?
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I think the questioners have not read the thread, where the subject has been explored at length.
If you ask a specific question that has not already been addressed I will try to answer you.
 
maatorc said:
I think the questioners have not read the thread, where the subject has been explored at length.
If you ask a specific question that has not already been addressed I will try to answer you.
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Why don't you just give short, succinct answers to anyone who asks any question? Sure, arguments can go around in circles sometimes, but the proper response to that situation is to try to find a new way of answering what may be a same old question, but in a way that will break the circle and lead to a higher level of the argument, rather than just being cryptic.
 
Paul2 said:
1... Why don't you just give short, succinct answers to anyone who asks any question?
2... Sure, arguments can go around in circles sometimes, but the proper response to that situation is to try to find a new way of answering what may be a same old question, but in a way that will break the circle and lead to a higher level of the argument, rather than just being cryptic.
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1... Many questions do not lend themselves to short, succinct answers.

2... Do you have a case in point?
 
maatorc said:
See post 157.
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'I have answered it before: Any strictly and exclusively mental event, such as a thought.'

That is describing a non-psi-esp noumena (and shown to be false, 'thinking' does produce distinct detectable brain activity).

What does a psi-esp noumena do that imagination does not do? Or are you saying that imagination is the same as psi-esp. Could you clarify?

Once again, I think an example of a supposed psi-esp ability would help. Can you provide one to illuminate your argument?
 
Guys, a gentle reminder that the discussion of psi-esp has already been split out to a new thread in General Skepticism. Please discuss the details of the topic there, and how it impacts the MDC here. Please keep this thread on topic.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
 
Maatorc, do you now understand that it is possible to win the million dollar challenge with the superpower you have described? That there is absolutely nothing in the rules or the spirit of the MDC which would stop you doing so if you had this power?
 
Kevin_Lowe said:
1... Maatorc, do you now understand that it is possible to win the million dollar challenge with the superpower you have described?
2... That there is absolutely nothing in the rules or the spirit of the MDC which would stop you doing so if you had this power?
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1... Yes, but the JREF would be paying for something it merely presumes to be the case.

2... I have not said I do or do not have this power. Those who have it will not challenge for the reasons I have repeatedly stated.
 
maatorc said:
1... Yes, but the JREF would be paying for something it merely presumes to be the case.
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No. They will be paying if evidence can be presented, and you have not given reasons why evidence cannot be presented - if the claimants can perform as they claim.
2... I have not said I do or do not have this power. Those who have it will not challenge for the reasons I have repeatedly stated.
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You have only stated why some who have this power will not take up the Challenge. You have not given reasons why each and every psi-esp expert in the entire world would not do so.
 
If I need to split out any further posts that are not on topic to the MDC, this thread will be set to moderated status instead.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
 
steenkh said:
Quote: maatorc: ... I have not said I do or do not have this power. Those who have it will not challenge for the reasons I have repeatedly stated.
You have only stated why some who have this power will not take up the Challenge. You have not given reasons why each and every psi-esp expert in the entire world would not do so.
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I have, but you either did not see it or you did not want to see it: Read my posts.
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maatorc said:
I have, but you either did not see it or you did not want to see it: Read my posts.
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You have in fact answered some of the outstanding questions, so I searched through your posts from the past two weeks, but I only came up with this lame answer:
maatorc said:
It is known and accepted in their circles as contrary to their ethical position vis-a-vis the true nature and purpose of the faculty they have perfected which underlies their conscious control and direction of psychic events.
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"It is known and accepted in their circles" is hardly covering each and every psi-esp expert in the entire world! Surely you can do better than that!
 
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