MirageMemories: Care to discuss?

HeyLeroy

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Hey, MM, welcome to the forum.

I've used my NWO Invisibility CloakTM to read a few of your posts at LCF.

You wrote a lengthy OP describing how WTC 1 and 2 were demolished with explosives, called "How Did They Do It?, Stealth C D at the W T C" in which you state,

What they ignore is there was nothing typical about the 9/11 WTC controlled demolitions other than the rapid freefall collapses.
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The squibs that did occur could have been the result of excess (redundant) explosives.
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Explosive overkill was required in order to fulfill two purposes.
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I certainly don't know the details of their plan, but I certainly believe the logistics were far from insurmountable.
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If you believe, based on the visual evidence of the collapses, the inadequate fires, the limited damage, and the 'make-it-collapse' computer simulations, that the NIST explanation is not credible, you have to conclude somehow the collapses were rigged.
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Any concerns about the required lead time for demolition preparation is not a problem, since bogus tenants could be placed in the towers long before 9/11.

Fake subcontractors could easily have access arrangements setup with building security, allowing them entry to elevator shafts and maintenance service areas.

Basement preparations could be accomplished by a combination of prepped vehicles strategically located and bogus contractors doing preparation under the guise of legitimate construction or repair work.

If you have the financial pockets, it would be easy to arrange just about any access and make it look legitimate.

If you have all the time you need and are effectively invisible, coming and going wherever you wish, you don't need a lot of people in the know.

False individual identification would not be a big problem if the operation is connected to an agency familiar with covert operations such as the CIA
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Now, I'd like to discuss this with you, as the logistics of such a plan is the biggest thing that I just can't wrap my mind around. I can't post your work in its entirety, but under fair use, I can post these snippets.

Would you mind starting a new thread with your analysis of the logistics over here? I'd love to hear more of your ideas, and discuss them, but as I've been banned at the LC forum, that's a bit difficult.

Thanks.
 
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Can I respectfully suggest that this debate might be between Leroy (and the death kitten) and Mirage? If Mirage agrees, of course.

It's a fact that only total loons like 28th can really enjoy a debate with 326 JREF'ers descending en masse into the fray. It's far too much for anybody who has some kind of life to cope with. Which is why 28th loved it ... I digress .....:D

Marquess of Queensbury rules? No gouging, no horseshoes in the glove, no thermite down the opponent's shorts?
 
jhunter1163 said:
My apologies. Carry on, you two.
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Sorry jhunter, that wasn't meant as a rebuke, just a suggestion. Came across all wrong ;)

However, my operatives have rigged your pants with some exothermic substances just in case. You don't want that stuff going on round your "naughty bits" eh???
 
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I really love this one:
Any concerns about the required lead time for demolition preparation is not a problem, since bogus tenants could be placed in the towers long before 9/11.

Fake subcontractors could easily have access arrangements setup with building security, allowing them entry to elevator shafts and maintenance service areas.

Basement preparations could be accomplished by a combination of prepped vehicles strategically located and bogus contractors doing preparation under the guise of legitimate construction or repair work.

If you have the financial pockets, it would be easy to arrange just about any access and make it look legitimate.

If you have all the time you need and are effectively invisible, coming and going wherever you wish, you don't need a lot of people in the know.

False individual identification would not be a big problem if the operation is connected to an agency familiar with covert operations such as the CIA
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Just dismiss the whole logistics problem by turning it into a "X hundreds of people kept their mouths shut" problem. Fake tenants, fake contractors, fake ID. And not one of the folks involved will ever come out and say "Yeah, I was on one of the teams that prepped the WTC?"

Are these guys required to surrender their brains before joing the Twoof-Mobementtm?
 
They seem to swing the gamut from "it wouldn't take that many people" to "a conspiracy of thousands". Actually, it seems that many of the CFists can embrace both train(wreck)s of thought, and not be bothered by the dichotomy.
 
Hey, Happy Birthday to Hey Leroy!
(Maybe MM will return and answer something as a birthday treat? Well... I hope the rest of your birthday wishes turn out better than that one.)

MM,
You have no evidence, just wild speculation. I'll tell ya what. I've got 40 years in logistics. You get me some figures, i.e. tonnage of explosives needed, floors they were placed on, detonation method, etc.... I'll give you the required man-hours and personnel required to pull this grand scenario off!

What? You have no figures? You don't know how many tons of C4 would have been needed? (Surely not thermite/thermate, again?) You have no calculation for locations at which the charges needed to be placed? You don't know the detonation method?

Oh, well never mind then.... carry on in your search for "truth".
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Thanks! So it's my birthday already in Honk Kong, eh? I still have almost six hours to wait here. So have a drink for me.

Cheers.
 
HeyLeroy said:
Thanks! So it's my birthday already in Honk Kong, eh? I still have almost six hours to wait here. So have a drink for me.

Cheers.
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Wow! The forum software is cool. Can you see the birthday icon on the site? I already have it over here.

I also think it's a good idea to make sure to keep in touch with the social graces when kitty cats are heavily armed. (I just added a dash of cognac to my morning coffee..... Cheers!)

Sorry for derail.... Any sign of the copious answers from MM yet?
 
Nope, no candles yet.

And how can it be a derail when we're not even on track yet?:D

It's like, if you're not disgruntled, would you be considered gruntled?
 
HeyLeroy said:
Nope, no candles yet.

And how can it be a derail when we're not even on track yet?:D

It's like, if you're not disgruntled, would you be considered gruntled?
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Rather like asking whether you would consider it inconsiderate to be reconsidered.
 
MirageMemories @ LCF said:
Everything about the those volcanic-like explosive collapses suggests (to me) very powerful explosives centered in the core of each building.

When you study the collapses you can see the forceful projecting dust and debris cloud patterns.

There is nothing about those powerful cloud projections that suggests deflected debris from a building in a mere gravity collapse.

MM
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I'd sure like to discuss this, MM, but I'm banned there, and you're here.
 
Originally Posted by MirageMemories @ LCF
Everything about the those volcanic-like explosive collapses suggests (to me) very powerful explosives centered in the core of each building.

When you study the collapses you can see the forceful projecting dust and debris cloud patterns.

There is nothing about those powerful cloud projections that suggests deflected debris from a building in a mere gravity collapse.

MM
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Can we nitpick on grammar and vocabulary for a while, since MM is back safe in the bossom of Dylan and Jason and IVXX?

How many errors can you spot in the above cite?

This is the dude what says he brings more to the table than the average CTer? A rough comprehension of the baic rules of grammar would be a good starting place. I count a minimum of one error per sentence.
 
Don't worry, I'm sure he'll be along once he gets over his paranoid fantasies about being IP blocked by JREF.

Don't you just love how a temporary technical glitch immediately makes them assume we're acting just like they act?
 
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