Distracted1
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Milwaukee Riots
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smartcooky
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Well as I said, I haven't seen it before, I just use ≠ (ALT+ =). Similarly
ALT + < gives me ≤
ALT + > gives me ≥
ALT + $ gives me £
and a whole raft of other stuff.
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That's really handy, thanks.
For a thrill, try ALT + lifestyle. (Now I'm married to my dog!)
I will reply to a few others later. You may not like the source of this video, but the message is the truth.
https://www.facebook.com/TomiLahren/videos/1051671678259352/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
Wonderfully entertaining. I enjoyed the phrase "pure thuggery" - as distinguished from the usual mixed thuggery.
She does need to get the narrative straight though. One shouldn't flip between "riot" - which is a disorganized mess, and "movement" - an organized group, just because the plot demands different things at different times. Pick your meme and stick with the bit.
And what would you describe is going on?
uke2se
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Noz, you where talking about evidence earlier. Wanna respond to the evidence presented in this thread?
I wouldn't. I haven't been following the news on it much. I was reacting to that commentary as a standalone item. My impression was based solely on the report's internal consistency.
I should also mention that, as talking heads go, she was well spoken and nice to look at. So it's not all doom and gloom.
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Myron Proudfoot
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it's a video that starts with a black man saying "Obama shouldn't try to ban guns. He should ban *******."
OKKKAYY then.
sir drinks-a-lot
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Sure the message was true, but how many would disagree? Some might not like her use of the word "thug" or her companion between BLM and the KKK, or the end part about the Democrats, but I don't see many people defending the riots of the attacks on white people.
BLM is a stupid movement, but I don't even see them defending the guy who got shot in Milwaukee. Are they?
smartcooky
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noz said:
Well, I don't like the source, and I don't like the speaker's obvious "white bias", but its hard to deny a lot of what she says as being true.
Black cop shoots Black criminal who was threatening him with a handgun, and that is somehow white people's fault? WTF?
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What will make it better?
The answers come from within the community, not from other communities, or races. Fixing it comes from black parents. From black individuals, from everyone in the community. It comes from accountability, it comes from refusing to be dysfunctional. It comes from treating your neighbor and your community with respect. Do you think it is the responsibility of all of the other races to instill these type of values into these communities? Or do you think it comes from within?
The mess of it came from within, and so will the fix. Whenever the black community decides to take responsibility, and stop making excuses. It is a disgrace that 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the country's 75 biggest counties — despite the fact that black Americans made up just 15 percent of the population in those areas. FACT: Over 1,400 more black Americans murdered other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968. FACT: Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years. FACT: It would take cops 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of others black men in 2012 alone.
You cannot blame this on others. You cannot fix this with others. It will only be fixed from within, and only when the community takes responsibility for their own actions. Until then, it will continue. The black community will either decide to change itself, or remain a disgrace.
The answers come from within the community, not from other communities, or races. Fixing it comes from black parents. From black individuals, from everyone in the community. It comes from accountability, it comes from refusing to be dysfunctional. It comes from treating your neighbor and your community with respect. Do you think it is the responsibility of all of the other races to instill these type of values into these communities? Or do you think it comes from within?
The mess of it came from within, and so will the fix. Whenever the black community decides to take responsibility, and stop making excuses. It is a disgrace that 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the country's 75 biggest counties — despite the fact that black Americans made up just 15 percent of the population in those areas. FACT: Over 1,400 more black Americans murdered other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968. FACT: Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years. FACT: It would take cops 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of others black men in 2012 alone.
You cannot blame this on others. You cannot fix this with others. It will only be fixed from within, and only when the community takes responsibility for their own actions. Until then, it will continue. The black community will either decide to change itself, or remain a disgrace.
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That is an interesting analysis. It simultaneously implies the source of the problem is community-centered and absolves outsiders of any contributions. Compelling in a way - surely the genesis of the problem is attached to where I identify the problem to be? Right? Not necessarily.
Primarily, if you expect someone to make better choices, those choices have to be available to choose. Secondly, it is an illusion to treat an entire community as if it had the ability to act as a whole, in the community's best interests, instead of individuals acting in their own, separate and often conflicting interests. Violence may be the best choice from my perspective.
Sacrificing nuance commonly does this - gives us the appearance of clarity from a distance. But we give up too much reality to gain this false assurance. Consider the validity of even delineating the demographic so casually used. Why does "black community" seem correct, but women v. men, poor v. middle class, young v. old, and a hundred others do not? How you draw the pattern decides for you what form the "answer" will have.
The_Animus
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I've literally heard interviews of black people protesting police shootings where they admit they have no idea what happened nor whether anything wrong was actually done but that they are protesting anyway because they don't have faith in the system.
There are some hard truths in this country that neither side wants to admit.
One side refuses to admit that black people still face systemic discrimination that disadvantages them in numerous ways.
The other side refuses to admit that the current black culture has a problem and disadvantages them in numerous ways. Whether intentional or not many have internalized the role of the poor black man who can't get anywhere not because they don't put forth the effort but because everybody be keeping the black man down. You see this same behavior in white people who don't put forth the effort except they blame immigrants.
The older I get, the more I realize that both sides often have some truth to what they say but neither side wants to see the others truth nor their own self deception.
There are some hard truths in this country that neither side wants to admit.
One side refuses to admit that black people still face systemic discrimination that disadvantages them in numerous ways.
The other side refuses to admit that the current black culture has a problem and disadvantages them in numerous ways. Whether intentional or not many have internalized the role of the poor black man who can't get anywhere not because they don't put forth the effort but because everybody be keeping the black man down. You see this same behavior in white people who don't put forth the effort except they blame immigrants.
The older I get, the more I realize that both sides often have some truth to what they say but neither side wants to see the others truth nor their own self deception.
My bold. The choices have been available. We have a black president. Black judges, mayors, governors, bankers, lawyers. What you don't see is this on a mass scale in the community. It begins at the family level. Dysfunction will remain so unless people decide to change themselves. You cannot change others. If you see violence as a best choice, you're part of the problem.
Are you arguing that circumstances - the environment - don't restrict choices or that violence is never the best option from an individual's point of view? That position strikes me as hopelessly naive.
On the other hand, if black judges, mayors and Barack Obama are your counterexamples, what mechanism are you proposing that prevents me from obtaining those same titles? I'll suggest that it was individual action, talent and opportunity which allowed those people to rise, but we wouldn't be talking about problems if they were representative of the demographic.
I don't see how you could cite those exceptions on the one hand and then carve out a "black community" on the other which doesn't include them. I'm guessing the mismatch comes from narrow-casting with "black." What do you think of "urban poor" instead?