Milwaukee Riots

[332nd]

I actually find this interesting..

I apologize for anythingI ask that is BS, but...can you go a bit deeper into this? I mean, local factions, and the like?

I would love to but I'm not sure what you mean by factions & were.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

So, let me get this straight - a black felon with a lengthy criminal record runs from police, points a stolen gun at the police, is sent to heaven by a black police officer which causes BLM peaceful protestors to peacefully burn down their own neighborhood.

From what I understand, I'm supposed to learn something from this, but I'll be darned if I can figure out what it is.

 

[Mumbles]

I would love to but I'm not sure what you mean by factions & were.

Well, honestly...anything that amounts to a local insight will do...

 

[marplots]

So, let me get this straight - a black felon with a lengthy criminal record runs from police, points a stolen gun at the police, is sent to heaven by a black police officer which causes BLM peaceful protestors to peacefully burn down their own neighborhood.

From what I understand, I'm supposed to learn something from this, but I'll be darned if I can figure out what it is.

Obviously it's the testosterone-fueled patriarchy run amok. Please try to keep up.

 

[dudalb]

So, let me get this straight - a black felon with a lengthy criminal record runs from police, points a stolen gun at the police, is sent to heaven by a black police officer which causes BLM peaceful protestors to peacefully burn down their own neighborhood.

From what I understand, I'm supposed to learn something from this, but I'll be darned if I can figure out what it is.

The idiots come in all colors,races,and creeds?

The thing that gets to me is the way people in this debate make up their minds without stopping to get the facts.That goes for both sides. Both Pro and Anti Police ideologues have to twist every case to fit into their preconceived ideology.
There is a world of difference between this case and what went down in Baltimore,but "let's examine this on a case by case basis" is beyond some people's abilities.
THis is why I oppose equally BLM and some of the Police Organizations.

 

[Mumbles]

I would love to but I'm not sure what you mean by factions & were.

What I mean is...

Do you know folks in that area? and if so, what are their complaints?

It's a very awkward thing to ask, as a guy in Maryland, but I think it's vital to understand what the local community is affected by...

If only if they amount to evidence.

 

[Mumbles]

So, let me get this straight - a black felon with a lengthy criminal record runs from police, points a stolen gun at the police, is sent to heaven by a black police officer which causes BLM peaceful protestors to peacefully burn down their own neighborhood.

From what I understand, I'm supposed to learn something from this, but I'll be darned if I can figure out what it is.

Well, you're supposed to learn that black people are people, and not just your imagined supermonsters.

I know. You're very resistant to that idea. But it's true, nonetheless.

 

[N0z]

Well, you're supposed to learn that black people are people, and not just your imagined supermonsters.

I know. You're very resistant to that idea. But it's true, nonetheless.

Who exactly is oppressing black people? Whites? Asians? Hispanics? All other races? Do the other races not face any adversity? Only blacks?

Frankly, its all BS. We have a black president in this country. We have black judges. Black Mayors. Black governors. Can you name one job a black person has never held in this country?


There is no oppression TODAY of any particular race. It is all hand waving, and excuses. Frankly, its time to stop making excuses. I see a lot more racism against white people, than against blacks in todays USA.


This article does some explaining about "white privilege" is NOT the reason for the numbers we see.

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/r...-privilege-not-what-holding-blacks-back-today

 

[dudalb]

Well, you're supposed to learn that black people are people, and not just your imagined supermonsters.

I know. You're very resistant to that idea. But it's true, nonetheless.

Well, maybe if you learn not that all cops are racists, and some police shootings of suspects who happen to be black are justified.
I know you are very resistant to that idea but is true,none the less.

And easy on the accusations of racism unless you can back it up with quotes from Central Scrntinzer.

 

[dudalb]

Who exactly is oppressing black people? Whites? Asians? Hispanics? All other races? Do the other races not face any adversity? Only blacks?

Frankly, its all BS. We have a black president in this country. We have black judges. Black Mayors. Black governors. Can you name one job a black person has never held in this country?


There is no oppression TODAY of any particular race. It is all hand waving, and excuses. Frankly, its time to stop making excuses. I see a lot more racism against white people, than against blacks in todays USA.


This article does some explaining about "white privilege" is NOT the reason for the numbers we see.

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/r...-privilege-not-what-holding-blacks-back-today

Wow.Just wow. THat is real objective and unbiased news source you have there, slick.......

From a newsite that claims that Christians are the oppressed minority in the US....

 

[The Big Dog]

What I mean is...

Do you know folks in that area? and if so, what are their complaints?

It's a very awkward thing to ask, as a guy in Maryland, but I think it's vital to understand what the local community is affected by...

If only if they amount to evidence.

It appears that they are affected by scumbags who steal guns and do crimes, and dumbasses who "protest" by burning **** up.

 

[Bogative]

It's being used as a racial slur, because it is a racial slur, and nothing more. The usage is correct, in context.

It's short for "dindu nuffin". In short, white supremacists insist, regardless evidence, that any black person harmed by a cop or vigilante must be guilty of something.

looking into things, there's the mangled version of AAVE . "Dindu Nuffin" as a mutation of "didn't do nothing" or "didn't do anything". As in, "I didn't do anything", which seems like a reasonable protestation when being arrested or attacked by police without cause.

Also note the hideous, ignorant version of AAVE.

More importantly, there's the assumption that any random black person must be guilty of some serious crime, and therefore must be a "worthy" victim of violence. If "I dindu nuffin" is false, then the person must have done something. And thus, they must have earned being beaten or shot - not due to racism, but rather because black people are somehow incapable of living among the civilized folks. They must fail - not because of any pressure, butbecause they're "dindus".

...I should think this one out a bit more. It's a slur as obvious as "coon" or the dreaded "n-word", but it's a bit new.

Bolding mine.
Thinking it out a bit more is probably a good idea and I will be happy to give you a little help since you tend to run off the rails and crash into the "white supremacy" ditch so easily.

The "Dindu nuffin" Internet meme most likely started with someone who observed more than five episodes of the television show "COPS" and noticed that it was very common for criminals to flat out lie and deny the crimes they just committed despite it being caught on camera.

"Dindu nuffin" is synonymous with other phrase like "I ain't did anything" or "what did I did" but covers other obvious lies and denials. A couple of examples would be a criminal saying "that wasn't me driving" even though they are on video and witnessed by the cops driving. Or when they say "I'm not resisting" while they are actively resisting. Another common denial is when a cop searches a suspect and find a knife, gun or bag of drugs in their pants and the criminal says "that ain't mine."

Here's about 30 minutes of examples of this very thing happening, there are hours and hours more for your viewing pleasure on YouTube if you're interested:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F-XmObnWkE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEZUnKIf49I

 

[Bogative]

Well, you're supposed to learn that black people are people, and not just your imagined supermonsters.

I know. You're very resistant to that idea. But it's true, nonetheless.

Well, you're supposed to learn that cops are people, and not just your imagined supermonsters.

I know. You're very resistant to that idea. But it's true, nonetheless.

 

[marplots]

Who exactly is oppressing black people? Whites? Asians? Hispanics? All other races? Do the other races not face any adversity? Only blacks?

Frankly, its all BS. We have a black president in this country. We have black judges. Black Mayors. Black governors. Can you name one job a black person has never held in this country?


There is no oppression TODAY of any particular race. It is all hand waving, and excuses. Frankly, its time to stop making excuses. I see a lot more racism against white people, than against blacks in todays USA.


This article does some explaining about "white privilege" is NOT the reason for the numbers we see.

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/r...-privilege-not-what-holding-blacks-back-today

Did you read the "about" page for your source? Just curious.

I sense an opportunity for some education here. So, in that spirit, here's a link to significant racial discrimination cases by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. These are the folks we pay to try and keep discrimination out of the workforce. This listing doesn't include discrimination by sex or disability - just race/color. Further, it only lists significant cases in the area of employment. Not housing or many other categories. It also doesn't list the day-to-day slights or insults.

Check it out and see if you still agree racism isn't an issue "today."

https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/initiatives/e-race/caselist.cfm

ETA: I didn't go through every case listed, but if you find one where a white person is the target, that would help support your contention about the racism you see against white people.

 

[Skeptic Tank]

Did you read the "about" page for your source? Just curious.

I sense an opportunity for some education here. So, in that spirit, here's a link to significant racial discrimination cases by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. These are the folks we pay to try and keep discrimination out of the workforce. This listing doesn't include discrimination by sex or disability - just race/color. Further, it only lists significant cases in the area of employment. Not housing or many other categories. It also doesn't list the day-to-day slights or insults.

Check it out and see if you still agree racism isn't an issue "today."

https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/initiatives/e-race/caselist.cfm

ETA: I didn't go through every case listed, but if you find one where a white person is the target, that would help support your contention about the racism you see against white people.

Have you considered that systematically attempting to exclude or limit the number of blacks in any environment, including an employment environment, reliably leads to more functional, productive, safe, and happy situations?

If you start with the premises of equality being true and diversity being helpful/good/desirable I could see why you'd think discrimination and xenophobia and racism are bad.

Problem is, equality is a dangerous myth and diversity is a socially corrosive force of division and discord.

Diversity + proximity = conflict.

 

[marplots]

Have you considered that systematically attempting to exclude or limit the number of blacks in any environment, including an employment environment, reliably leads to more functional, productive, safe, and happy situations?

If you start with the premises of equality being true and diversity being helpful/good/desirable I could see why you'd think discrimination and xenophobia and racism are bad.

Problem is, equality is a dangerous myth and diversity is a socially corrosive force of division and discord.

Diversity + proximity = conflict.

All that is possible, but the fact of racial discrimination doesn't depend on outcome, merely on discrimination by way of skin color (or perceived racial heritage).

Whether the law is a good law or not, and whether the law accomplishes some goal or not is all beside the point of whether discrimination exists in modern times. What is your feeling on this issue - does racial discrimination exist?

 

[Skeptic Tank]

All that is possible, but the fact of racial discrimination doesn't depend on outcome, merely on discrimination by way of skin color (or perceived racial heritage).

Whether the law is a good law or not, and whether the law accomplishes some goal or not is all beside the point of whether discrimination exists in modern times. What is your feeling on this issue - does racial discrimination exist?

Of course. Always has, always will.

 

[marplots]

Of course. Always has, always will.

I can think of one possible escape from that fate: some serious and dedicated interbreeding between races. Lots of sex. Lots of cute babies. Everybody wins.

 

[Skeptic Tank]

I can think of one possible escape from that fate: some serious and dedicated interbreeding between races. Lots of sex. Lots of cute babies. Everybody wins.

A couple of problems with that idea:

1.) That requires a calculated attempt to eliminate ALL existing racial groups, aka genocide.

2.) Some groups are far larger (and with higher birth rates to match) than other groups, currently. The resulting mixed single human race would be comprised of far more of some peoples' DNA than others' and those who had bred most irresponsibly would end up rewarded for that behavior. Not to mention the fact that some groups are characterized by far more dominant traits and others are characterized by more recessive traits which means that even if the planet were comprised of exactly 3 billion whites and exactly 3 billion blacks, and nobody else existed or ever had, whites would have a legitimate basis to feel that some of their defining characteristics stood to be lost under such a proposal. It's true that light colored eyes, freckles, reddish hair and such don't disappear 100% of the time after one generation of mixing, but they *tend* to not show up and they also tend to get swamped and disappear with subsequent mixing, and at best appear in a very dulled and reduced form. This problem is only made much worse by the fact that, as previously stated, the groups with more dominant traits are currently far larger and this would just make the swamping / genetic destruction angle all the more pronounced.

3.) Many people (from all groups) exist now, and could be assumed to exist in the future, who would not want to take part and who wish to preserve their group. What would we do, force them to pair off with someone of a different race? How far would we be willing to go to achieve this dreamed of "zero diversity" world?

4.) Many people (including a LOT of nonwhites, possibly even the vast majority of them) consider fully white babies/adults to be much cuter / more desirable than mixed babies. Especially when the mix is with blacks. In the nonwhite world, light skin is prized. Light hair and eye colors are prized and seen as desirable. Among East Asians, Amerindians, Middle Easterners, etc. blacks and their associated genetic traits / appearance are seen as undesirable, generally. Even within blacks themselves, these attitudes are quite common. Light skin seen as preferable to darker skin, "good hair", skin lightening creams in Africa, etc.

5.) Many of us feel we have good reason to suspect the resulting mixed humanity would be less capable of facing the challenges of the future and of technological civilization than current existing varieties of humanity are equipped to do (Whites, Jews, East Asians)

Of course, the biggest issue is that this idea is just completely pie in the sky and unworkable but I know you're not proposing it in an entirely serious manner. We've both obviously heard many other people suggest it before, so I'm just using this as an opportunity to point out some issues with it.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Who exactly is oppressing black people? Whites? Asians? Hispanics? All other races? Do the other races not face any adversity? Only blacks?

Frankly, its all BS. We have a black president in this country. We have black judges. Black Mayors. Black governors. Can you name one job a black person has never held in this country?


There is no oppression TODAY of any particular race. It is all hand waving, and excuses. Frankly, its time to stop making excuses. I see a lot more racism against white people, than against blacks in todays USA.


This article does some explaining about "white privilege" is NOT the reason for the numbers we see.

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/r...-privilege-not-what-holding-blacks-back-today

You learn so much from the articles people cite. The reprehensible Jesse Lee Peterson? Seriously?

Editor's Note: This piece was originally published by WND.com.

Since that's also the OP's favorite source of hatred-oriented sociology news, do you hold his same, er, interesting opinions?