Milwaukee Riots

[Skeptic Tank]

Surely there must be a thread already? But I did not see one. Apologies if I missed it but I'm on my phone and searching is not optimal.

The diverse denizens of Milwaukee are rioting on behalf of the latest cop-evading, arrest-resisting dindu thug with a long rap sheet. They sure know how to keep their powder dry and go to bat for truly deserving civil rights heroes. Of course, that's implying that there's ever an appropriate case to use as justification for burning stores and dragging white women out of passing cars to beat for explicitly anti-white reasons.

I've seen no evidence that this demographic is compatible with an ordered, civilized, or safe society. I've seen a whole lot of evidence that they aren't.

Milwaukee has been Detroit-ified and made unrecognizable by demographic changes and they are the same changes which, without any exceptions that I'm aware of, always have the same impact on any American city or neighborhood in which they take place: they become dysfunctional, crime-ridden hell holes in which victimization if you're white and try to walk through is virtually guaranteed.

Thoughts?

"THEY are afraid to say so in public, but many of the North's big-city mayors groan in private that their biggest and most worrisome problem is the crime rate among Negroes.

In 1,551 U.S. cities, according to the FBI tally for 1956, Negroes, making up 10% of the U.S. population, accounted for about 30% of all arrests, and 60% of the arrests for crimes involving violence or threat of bodily harm—murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. In one city after another, the figures—where they are not hidden or suppressed by politicians—reveal a shocking pattern."

-Time magazine, 1958

 

[applecorped]

It wasn't a riot. It was aggressive alternative dialogue.

 

[ponderingturtle]

If only they were rioting for an acceptable white person reasons like their sports team doing something or pumpkins.

 

[shemp]

I'm not in favor of violence and riots, but how does dredging up 60-year-old statistics help prove your argument?

 

[A'isha]

I'm not in favor of violence and riots, but how does dredging up 60-year-old statistics help prove your argument?

Because for Skeptic Tank, the era of Jim Crow and whites murdering blacks and bombing churches with impunity was the Good Old Days.

 

[Skeptic Tank]

If only they were rioting for an acceptable white person reasons like their sports team doing something or pumpkins.

And how many of those white "riots" have been beyond very short duration, small scale affairs? How many involved shooting at police, burning down businesses, systematic blocking of major traffic ways, dragging nonwhites out of cars for merciless beatings, etc.?

Far be it from me to deny that whites are capable of idiocy and criminality. The thing is, blacks seem capable of little else.

Whites offset the negatives they produce with positives like, oh, I don't know... almost the entirety of what constitutes the modern civilized world. What do blacks offset their massive destructive output with? Where's the counterbalance?

I'm not in favor of violence and riots, but how does dredging up 60-year-old statistics help prove your argument?

It demonstrates that this is the long enduring character of this demographic once the restraints of a brutally racist and repressive society were loosened (and I can show you plenty to demonstrate that it was how they were even while that society was in place) and it is relevant to Milwaukee being ruined by blacks because it mentions all northern cities where blacks went in any significant numbers also being ruined by them, which is the truth.

Blacks have never not ruined a city by getting a demographic foothold and a significant share of the total population in said city.

 

[NoahFence]

Far be it from me to deny that whites are capable of idiocy and criminality. The thing is, blacks seem capable of little else.

Whites offset the negatives they produce with positives like, oh, I don't know... almost the entirety of what constitutes the modern civilized world. What do blacks offset their massive destructive output with? Where's the counterbalance?

When they've been suppressed by the likes of you for their entire existence on this continent, maybe they see the world a bit different?

 

[Skeptic Tank]

When they've been suppressed by the likes of you for their entire existence on this continent, maybe they see the world a bit different?

We should get Asians to tell blacks ancient Chinese secret they used to become more successful, higher IQ, superior academically and have higher average incomes than whites despite having also been suppressed.

 

[A'isha]

We should get Asians to tell blacks ancient Chinese secret they used to become more successful, higher IQ, superior academically and have higher average incomes than whites despite having also been suppressed.

They weren't suppressed the same way or to the same extent.

 

[Skeptic Tank]

They weren't suppressed the same way or to the same extent.

Sure, but shouldn't they still be doing worse than whites (not better than whites) to a degree proportional to their suppression?

 

[N0z]

When they've been suppressed by the likes of you for their entire existence on this continent, maybe they see the world a bit different?

Stop blaming the world for the failures of the black community. If "other" people can open stores, businesses and restaurants, own buildings etc, have nice communities, black people can do the same. Other immigrants do it. Other immigrants come here with NOTHING and some of them build empires. Black people can too. The black communities really need to stop blaming the world for "keepin' da black man down." Take responsibility for your actions. This applies to EVERYONE of every color or race. The "white man" doesn't make black crime rates, nor do other races blame black people (or other races) for their own crime rates. Black people today ARE NOT victims, yet many act like they are. The black community is a disgrace. (for the most part) Stop complaining. Make something of yourself. Clean up your act.

 

[A'isha]

Sure, but shouldn't they still be doing worse than whites (not better than whites) to a degree proportional to their suppression?

Not really, no. Different forms of historical and modern suppression experienced by different groups can have very different effects on those groups. It's not a "push button, get result" kind of thing.

 

[William Parcher]

There are reports now that the shooting cop is black.

Also, this same topic is being discussed in the Baltimore Burning thread.

 

[sir drinks-a-lot]

Not really, no. Different forms of historical and modern suppression experienced by different groups can have very different effects on those groups. It's not a "push button, get result" kind of thing.

Not sure what you're saying here. What is your explanation for why many asian groups who are recent immigrants to the US are doing so well? And why is there such a drastic difference between the black and white neighborhoods in cities such as Milwaukee? Something seems wrong with the idea that it is due to oppression or some such. First of all, it's pretty tough to point to cases of oppression on a large scale, and secondly, there are more blacks than whites in the city.

 

[BStrong]

And how many of those white "riots" have been beyond very short duration, small scale affairs? How many involved shooting at police, burning down businesses, systematic blocking of major traffic ways, dragging nonwhites out of cars for merciless beatings, etc.?

Far be it from me to deny that whites are capable of idiocy and criminality. The thing is, blacks seem capable of little else.

Whites offset the negatives they produce with positives like, oh, I don't know... almost the entirety of what constitutes the modern civilized world. What do blacks offset their massive destructive output with? Where's the counterbalance?

It demonstrates that this is the long enduring character of this demographic once the restraints of a brutally racist and repressive society were loosened (and I can show you plenty to demonstrate that it was how they were even while that society was in place) and it is relevant to Milwaukee being ruined by blacks because it mentions all northern cities where blacks went in any significant numbers also being ruined by them, which is the truth.

Blacks have never not ruined a city by getting a demographic foothold and a significant share of the total population in said city.

The Tulsa Race riots:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

"May 31 and June 1, 1921, hundreds of whites led a racially motivated attack on the black community of Greenwood in Tulsa, Oklahoma, killing some 300 people, mostly blacks. The attack, carried out on the ground and by air, destroyed more than 35 blocks of the district, then the wealthiest black community in the nation. More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals and more than 6,000 black residents were arrested and detained, some for as many as eight days. [2] The official count of the dead by the Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics was 39."

 

[carlvs]

The Tulsa Race riots:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

"May 31 and June 1, 1921, hundreds of whites led a racially motivated attack on the black community of Greenwood in Tulsa, Oklahoma, killing some 300 people, mostly blacks. The attack, carried out on the ground and by air, destroyed more than 35 blocks of the district, then the wealthiest black community in the nation. More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals and more than 6,000 black residents were arrested and detained, some for as many as eight days. [2] The official count of the dead by the Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics was 39."

But, that was whites killing blacks. And based on the filth the OP has posted on the forum, that's ok...

 

[Mumbles]

Our resident confessed racist wants to act like his confessed philosophy isn't the exact problem that has had people at wit's end.

The various folks who always rush to defend police or vigilantes killing black people, regardless of circumstance, are here to project their words onto others.

Pious reminders to "stop blaming" the exact people causing the problems, as though they don't deserve the blame (and more) for what they do.

Basically, "Black people should do just as well as everyone else, also they should not receive the same rights or treatment as everyone else."

Worthless.

 

[Mumbles]

There are reports now that the shooting cop is black.

So is Sheriff Clarke, and that guy said that he's "at war" with the nonviolent protestors, and is currently supporting white nationalist Donald Trump.

This line of reasoning leads to nothing - and I'm saying that as someone who suspects the initial shooting was justified.

 

[sir drinks-a-lot]

The Tulsa Race riots

100 years ago!?!

Basically, "Black people should do just as well as everyone else, also they should not receive the same rights or treatment as everyone else."

I'd love to hear which rights were violated in the Milwaukee incident.

What's become clear at this point is that the vast majority of black communities in the US are complete and utter failures by just about any metric. As I mentioned upthread, it's a pretty tough job to explain it as racism or oppression in the Milwaukee case.

 

[BStrong]

100 years ago!?!



I'd love to hear which rights were violated in the Milwaukee incident.

What's become clear at this point is that the vast majority of black communities in the US are complete and utter failures by just about any metric. As I mentioned upthread, it's a pretty tough job to explain it as racism or oppression in the Milwaukee case.

Yeah.

I grew up with stories about what the Upright Protestant Protectors of Civil Society did to my particular immigrant group in 1891:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_14,_1891_lynchings

So I have a particular aversion to racial/ethnic violence from any quarter, and yes folks, there are currently people who hate whites enough that they feel empowered to do them harm.