michael moore ignored the drugs

Nie Trink Wasser said:
what interests me is that he asked questions in the town and left out answers concerning the meds.

Well NTW, I have say that means you most likely haven't seen the movie. The dirtiest trick that MM uses is to rearrange the order of parts of his interview with Chalton Heston, there is an interview at the end of the movie that makes Moore look like a big ass and heston a total dunce. Charton comes out bad because of the arrangement of the questions and answeres.

And MM concludes that Bowling is the likely cause for the Columbine massacre.

The kids had also had frequent contacts with the police, that didn't make it into the movie.
 
I felt this whole film was constantly contradicting itself. Moore is telling us that perhaps violence in America is because of a society based on fear and death yet then runs extended footage of a high school massacre. Then, later, he gives statistics that violent crimes in America are actually going down, so why make the film at all? He seemed very sneaky in his presentation of many of his ideas. Overall, this film made be feel emotionally raped and intellectually vomited on. Besides, Jello Biafra talked about these topics years ago and much more convincingly, IMO. The movie, however, was entertaining at times, such as the Matt Stone cartoon. Most of the rest was unwatchable.
 
I saw the film at the Grandin theatre when it came out and then I saw it again on dvd.

It's exhausting to watch because it is so stupid and irresponsible.

much like the people who enjoy such films.
 
Nie Trink Wasser said:

It's exhausting to watch because it is so stupid and irresponsible.

much like the people who enjoy such films.

:i: :i: :id:

Are those people as dumb as the people who make broad and irresponsible generalizations? I doubt it.
 
Nie Trink Wasser said:
I saw the film at the Grandin theatre when it came out and then I saw it again on dvd.

It's exhausting to watch because it is so stupid and irresponsible.

much like the people who enjoy such films.

What, in your opinion, is 'irresponsible' in the movie?

Note I said 'your opinion', see if you can answer this one without using the 'cut and paste' option.
 
Re: Re: michael moore ignored the drugs

Haven't seen the movie and am not really commenting on it, but

Crossbow said:

The movie did not blame the NRA for the Columbine killings, in fact, Michael Moore is a lifetime member of the NRA. Also, Moore went to Canada which has very high gun ownership and a very low crime rate: he met several Canadians that do not even lock their doors, and he did find out that it was true!

Where do they live? I've got bars on my basement windows and I'm in a small city. I've had attempts into my house twice and my truck stolen. I'd love to feel like I didn't have to dead-bolt my doors.

And as far as our gun control, this is a prime example of regulation out of control and having little or no effect on actual crime.

Maybe I'll have to see the movie, but I do question the "very high gun ownership" statement. I'm not sure we approach the level of ownership the US has.
 
Mr Manifesto said:

What, in your opinion, is 'irresponsible' in the movie?

for one the "fearful white man" cartoon was completely lame and predictable. I just sat there and stared at it, as id most of my friends, trying to find something funny about it, but instead all we saw were BROAD GENERALIZATIONS about it all being the "scared white man with itchy trigger finger's" fear and oppression of black people.

it was ridiculously stupid and unfunny, because it was so irresponsible.


Note I said 'your opinion', see if you can answer this one without using the 'cut and paste' option. [/B]

do you have your driver's license yet or are you too busy memorizing conspiracy theories ?
 
Nie Trink Wasser said:


for one the "fearful white man" cartoon was completely lame and predictable. I just sat there and stared at it, as id most of my friends, trying to find something funny about it, but instead all we saw were BROAD GENERALIZATIONS about it all being the "scared white man with itchy trigger finger's" fear and oppression of black people.

it was ridiculously stupid and unfunny, because it was so irresponsible.


So, it's irresponsible because you don't think a particular cartoon was funny? Got it.
 
Withnail said:
I felt this whole film was constantly contradicting itself. Moore is telling us that perhaps violence in America is because of a society based on fear and death yet then runs extended footage of a high school massacre. Then, later, he gives statistics that violent crimes in America are actually going down, so why make the film at all? He seemed very sneaky in his presentation of many of his ideas. Overall, this film made be feel emotionally raped and intellectually vomited on. Besides, Jello Biafra talked about these topics years ago and much more convincingly, IMO. The movie, however, was entertaining at times, such as the Matt Stone cartoon. Most of the rest was unwatchable.

Actually, it was not a Matt Stone cartoon. It just happened to be inserted after the Stone interview.
 
If the NRA is so thoughtless and cruel (for holding that meeting in Colorado after the shootings)....

Why did they cancel just about everything, except for the board meeting that could not be cancelled for legal reasons?

And while Moore may pay NRA dues, he knows crap about handling a firearm. *smirk*

--Toasty
 

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