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Michael Moore: Best Picture?

Ed

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He's pushing for it. Frankly, if I were an actor or director, I'd be pretty pissed if he won.
 
I suppose winning an Oscar makes a difference when the movie is made into a video and how much shelf space it gets at Blockbuster. But since the lag time between movie and DVD is getting shorter all the time, does it really matter any more? And isn't F911 out on video already?
 
I should imagine it makes a huge difference when it comes to selling advertising for TV syndication, which in turn means it commands more money for the syndication rights themselves. Also, it could make it easier to get funding for the next film...
 
If I were a actor or director, I'd be "pushing" for my movie, too. As much as it's possible to push for such things, I suppose. And I'd be pissed if anyone else but me won, too. ;)

How does one push one's movie for academy award? Seems you can't do much unless the judges really like the movie to start with. maybe they only respond to complaints like the FCC. :p
 
This is the best picture of Michael Moore:
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:D
 
shecky said:
If I were a actor or director, I'd be "pushing" for my movie, too. As much as it's possible to push for such things, I suppose. And I'd be pissed if anyone else but me won, too. ;)

How does one push one's movie for academy award? Seems you can't do much unless the judges really like the movie to start with. maybe they only respond to complaints like the FCC. :p

Actually, pushing for an Academy Award has become a whole obsession in itself among studios.
Miramax studios was actually heavily criticized a few years back when "Shakespeare in Love" won best picture, because they went on a shameless media blitz to encourage members to vote for their film.
Academy members are generally industry folk, and trade magazines are one of many tools that studios use to get members on their side.
The whole business is quite incenstuous, and objectivity doesn't play much of a part in deciding what films will win.

As for "Farenheit 9/11" I have a feeling it will not get nominated.
While many embraced it leading up to the election, I think it's usefulness has expired, and most members will actually see it as the flawed work that it is.
 
I think if the election turned out differently it would certainly be nominated and would probably win as well.

I think there's a slight chance it might not even getnominated since it didn't serve its primary purpose; removing Bush from office.

But as long as The Passion doesnt win I'll be happy. Even though I found it entertaining I don't want the fundies to ram its winning down our throat for the next 2000 years.
 
Ed said:
He's pushing for it. Frankly, if I were an actor or director, I'd be pretty pissed if he won.

Every producer who released a film in 2004 is pushing for Best Picture. I'm not sure why MM shouldn't do the same.
 
Ian Osborne said:
I should imagine it makes a huge difference when it comes to selling advertising for TV syndication, which in turn means it commands more money for the syndication rights themselves. Also, it could make it easier to get funding for the next film...

True and true. Plus, there can be a post Oscar bump at the box office. F911 isn't out anymore, but in the past, the best picture would sometimes be re-released after the show.
 
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The Central Scrutinizer said:
Every producer who released a film in 2004 is pushing for Best Picture. I'm not sure why MM shouldn't do the same.

The other guys learned like, a script, got serious funding, memorized lines, went on location, acted, directed etc. MM knocked 9/11 together in an editing room between doughnuts. A cute reguritation of stock footage and some oh, so clever interviews is akin to Mystery Science Theater 3000 being nominated.

BTW, if I were MM I would do exactly what he is doing. He is fat, crass and ugly but he is still a greedy capitalist and therefore, my brother.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
True and true. Plus, there can be a post Oscar bump at the box office. F911 isn't out anymore, but in the past, the best picture would sometimes be re-released after the show.

He is making, coincidentially, a new slasher mo.... documentary. Publicity never hurts. Look at that young Thersa Hines Kerry, Paris Hilton.:D
 
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Ed said:
The other guys learned like, a script, got serious funding, memorized lines, went on location, acted, directed etc. MM knocked 9/11 together in an editing room between doughnuts. A cute reguritation of stock footage and some oh, so clever interviews is akin to Mystery Science Theater 3000 being nominated.

So? Are you equating budget with quality? So a documentary can't win best picture?
 
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The Central Scrutinizer said:
So? Are you equating budget with quality? So a documentary can't win best picture?

No, contribution. That's why documentaries are a seperate catagory.
 
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Ed said:
No, contribution. That's why documentaries are a seperate catagory.

So, in your opinion, a documentary cannot be the best picture of the year?
 
Did it put butts in seats?

Did people talk about it?

Is Moore going to have any trouble getting funding or anything else for his next film?

Then it deserves to be at least nominated...I mean we are talking about the Oscars here, not some pantheon of great artists.
 
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The Central Scrutinizer said:
Every producer who released a film in 2004 is pushing for Best Picture. I'm not sure why MM shouldn't do the same.

Not so. Mel Gibson is not pushing "Temptation of the Christ".

If Fahrenheit doesn't get nominated, it will be Moore's fault. He pulled it from consideration for best documentary, for which it would have undoubtably been nominated and maybe would have won.

It won't be nominated for best picture. Too much baggage even for Hollywood. And Christ probably won't be nominated for Best Picture either. Too religious for that crowd.

Either movie may pick up secondary awards. Jim Caviezel may be nominated for his portrayal of Christ which was a brutal undertaking for an actor.
 
I hope it gets nominated.

I hope it wins best picture.

I hope it wins best director.

I hope it wins best editing.

I hope it wins best screenplay.

I hope it wins best actor.

I hope it wins best actress.

I hope it wins best supporting actor.

I hope it wins best supporting actress.

I hope it wins everything in sight.

I hope its sweep of the awards makes James Cameron and Titanic look like a pathetic loser.

I hope Michael Moore gets up on the stage a dozen times on Oscar Night and makes a dozen speeches about how Bush and the Republicans and Halliburton want to rape and kill your grandma - and not necessarily in that order.

I hope every speech Michael Moore makes is interrupted a dozen times with standing ovations.

I hope every ovation interruption has a shot panning over the Hollywood glitterati as they ecstatically cheer their hero.
 
BPSCG said:
I hope it gets nominated.

I hope it wins best picture.

I hope it wins best director.

I hope it wins best editing.

I hope it wins best screenplay.

I hope it wins best actor.

I hope it wins best actress.

I hope it wins best supporting actor.

I hope it wins best supporting actress.

I hope it wins everything in sight.

I hope its sweep of the awards makes James Cameron and Titanic look like a pathetic loser.

I hope Michael Moore gets up on the stage a dozen times on Oscar Night and makes a dozen speeches about how Bush and the Republicans and Halliburton want to rape and kill your grandma - and not necessarily in that order.

I hope every speech Michael Moore makes is interrupted a dozen times with standing ovations.

I hope every ovation interruption has a shot panning over the Hollywood glitterati as they ecstatically cheer their hero.

Looking for a GOP win in 2008, huh?

Shrewd... ;)
 

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