Michael Brown Shooting

[johnny karate]

That one is, but this one isn't..
[qimg]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m532/abitofmystuff/Grab2_zpse542cfea.jpg[/qimg]

Thug....

Just wondering how calling Brown a "thug" for the umpteenth time in this thread provides any insight into the question of whether or not Wilson was justified in killing him.

 

[Monketi Ghost]

Just wondering how calling Brown a "thug" for the umpteenth time in this thread provides any insight into the question of whether or not Wilson was justified in killing him.

It doesn't.

We could all try to tone down.




Not me though, I'm straight thuggin'4life

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Just wondering how calling Brown a "thug" for the umpteenth time in this thread provides any insight into the question of whether or not Wilson was justified in killing him.

Because other people insist on bringing it up, and whether or not Wilson was justified is not the only thing being discussed..

Why does that rub you the wrong way?
Do you have an argument that the person in that image isn't a thug?

Labeling the photo was within the context..

 

[Elagabalus]

Because other people insist on bringing it up, and whether or not Wilson was justified is not the only thing being discussed..

Why does that rub you the wrong way?
Do you have an argument that the person in that image isn't a thug?

Labeling the photo was within the context..

I don't think exchange in the convenience store paints Brown in a favorable light but I would be more interested in reading your thoughts about why you don't think the killing of Brown was justified. No Gotchas, I am genuinely curious.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

I don't think exchange in the convenience store paints Brown in a favorable light but I would be more interested in reading your thoughts about why you don't think the killing of Brown was justified. No Gotchas, I am genuinely curious.

I don't believe anyone, including police officers, have the right to take the life of another human being.. But they may find themselves in the position where they determine it is the best course of action.

I could kill someone if I felt it was in my best interest to do so, but not necessarily be able to justify it..

It is sort of like capital punishment (which I do not approve of either), without all the bother of due process.

However, I can't say that Wilson acted with malice, and in that regard he may not be technically guilty of a crime..

He may not be morally guilty either, if in his mind he was fulfilling his sworn duty. Only he can know the answer to that ..

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

That image is a fake. There's so much effort out there to demonize Brown. I have to wonder why people are so invested in it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...l-brown-pic-facebook-report-article-1.1909021

Yeah, why can't people just accept that he was a happy-go-lucky teenager skipping home from the malt shop early because he had to go volunteer at the crippled children's home?

 

[Cylinder]

What the hell? Seriously? So there's no contemporaneous version of the story that we can read? Unbelievable.

That simply means the SLCSO was lead and was the agency that filled out the incident report. It's very common (and best practice) for smaller departments to have outside agencies investigate OIS fatalities. In Arkansas, the ASP investigates all police shooting involving fatalities and has concurrent jurisdiction in all police use-of-force incidents.

A 50-man department might have 4 working investigators, 2 supervising investigators and maybe 2 department heads. Then you have to weed out those who go golfing or hunting with Wilson, then those who drink beer with him, his current supervisor, his last supervisor, etc...

Maybe without conflicts-of-interest you could put together a team to handle the investigation but who do you have handle regular policing and prosecutions?

 

[MattusMaximus]

No, but you have to wonder about the mentality in the area police departments. That sort of thing becomes the standard among people that work together. If one cop sees everyone as a the enemy, it's typical to find that is a contagious attitude.

So, if one nurse in your ward starts popping pills from the pharmacy, that means you'll do it, too?

 

[MattusMaximus]

As long as people are posting GatewayPundit and anonymous friend's of Wilson's, here's what is believed in the Ferguson neighborhood: Witness says police were looking to confiscate videos.

Or perhaps they were gathering evidence?

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

So, if one nurse in your ward starts popping pills from the pharmacy, that means you'll do it, too?

It must.

 

[MattusMaximus]

So when there is a self defense case, the accused is the most credible witness? That makes a lot of sense!!

I'd say there isn't a "most credible" witness. They would all have a reason to lie depending upon what actually happened.

This ^

I reiterate: eye-witness testimony is the worst form of evidence.

 

[Cylinder]

What version are they backing? So far as I know, the officer has never given a version.

The people working in the investigation have access to Wilson's narrative. The on-leave reporter was claiming those people as sources. Persons close to the investigation or words to that effect. I'm not vouching her accuracy, but it is logically consistent.

 

[Cylinder]

Or perhaps they were gathering evidence?

Right, one should expect them to be gathering evidence. These people should be asserting their right to retain a copy of digital evidence.

 

[LTC8K6]

He definitely altered it. As to why ...?

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art...an_Orbital_Blowout_Fracture_of_the_Eye_Socket

It always said "File image" under it, and there was always a link to the image source, AAPOS, which still has the unaltered image.

http://www.aapos.org/terms/conditions/28

LGF is wrong, imo. The Iowa part was removed for some other reason, imo.

 

[Mike!]

So, if one nurse in your ward starts popping pills from the pharmacy, that means you'll do it, too?

I think it's safe to assume all nurses are pill popping fiends, don't you?

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Right, one should expect them to be gathering evidence. These people should be asserting their right to retain a copy of digital evidence.

These people should be smart enough to off-load it before giving it up...


There's gold in them thar hills...

 

[LTC8K6]

What the hell? Seriously? So there's no contemporaneous version of the story that we can read? Unbelievable.

There was very heavy pressure applied to take the case away from FPD, and that happened the next morning, iirc.

FPD has apparently had little to do with the case, or policing the city/riots, since shortly after the shooting.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Or perhaps they were gathering evidence?

Stick to the scenario.

 

[LTC8K6]

I think the "friend" in the Washington Post story is the same source who first detailed Officer Wilson's story in an anonymous twitter post. This person first mentioned the facial swelling, long before the police chief confirmed it. He/she also claimed that his eye had later swollen shut, and now the CNN source is claiming that Wilson had swelling around his eyes. Perhaps his injury grew worse in appearance after his first visit to the hospital, and so he had a second look, and this time the doctor found a fracture that was missed in the initial X-RAY (and the CNN source is unaware of this)?

Jackson tells of the swelling and hospital visit on the 13th.

I think that was well before any other source.

 

[marplots]

Yeah, why can't people just accept that he was a happy-go-lucky teenager skipping home from the malt shop early because he had to go volunteer at the crippled children's home?

Doesn't matter. If he's large, and black, and some cop gets a case of the nerves, the dude has to die.

Street justice, street rules. Everyone knows how it is. Shoot or be shot.