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Michael Brown Shooting

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I think it is that cops are trained to shoot guns. It therefore follows that emptying his magazine and only hitting him a couple of times is unacceptable. The cop should have used a quarter of a bullet and clipped the robber then handcuffed him...or something.
 
There must have been a preliminary autopsy report. Something like "Death by gunshot wounds. One to the ____ at close range, (X) in the front, (None) to the back" ?

But they don't want to let it out to the public because it would cause more outrage, So they wait until the toxicology report comes in. Probably due to the extenuating circumstance of something like PCP? Meth? Cocaine rage? 'Roid rage?

I wonder if there is a Police PR manual covering "How to calm the populace when they go crazy about a routine police shooting"? Things like 'meter the info out slowly, give them time to calm down'. "If it's a justifiable shooting, do _________". "If it is not justifiable, throw the cop under the bus, but do it later, after everybody calms down".
 
lane99 said:
Violent troublemakers looking for an excuse.
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To be sure, I'm guilty of applying the ugly actions of a few to more people than deserve it in that town. No better than the cop haters, and I should be more selective. The deceased's folks are undeserving of my little smart remark and I retract it.
 
My post wasn't in response to yours. But having now read it, you've done the right thing by disavowing it for it was cruel.
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KatieG said:
What do you think was in the gun the officer was firing at Michael Brown? I'll answer my question...bullets, the gun in the officer's hand was firing bullets. Bullets are generally deadly if they hit vital organs, like a brain or a heart.
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I think you are claiming that the officer shot MB after he was on the ground.

Are you claiming that?
 
Well, they're leading a protest rally, which in these situations the criminally minded take advantage of.
They're sort of somewhere between demonstrations/riots.

I hope they stop rioting and looting, it's damaging the credibility of the social protest.
 
Mumbles said:
False Dichotomy.

We have evidence of *one* robbery - and frankly, a fairly minor one at that. You don't get from one spot to "shoves a cop into his car, jumps in through the window, and then tries to grab a gun". Which is part of why I'm saying, wait for the independent investigation.



You may want to use it that way. Consider what Richard Sherman said, when he was called a "thug" for yelling after winning a trip to the Superbowl, even though hockey players, and white celebrities like Justin Beiber, manage to avoid the term while acting far worse (much less guys like Ritchie Incognito - or even worse, the MMA Fighter War Machine). It's a racially-charged term now, whether you like it or not.
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Well, he's only 18. If he has a prior record, it may be a sealed juvenile record.

The video just doesn't look like his first time to me.

There is also the ID requirement to buy tobacco products. You have to show ID if you look like you might be under 18. The store owner can get into trouble for selling tobacco to a minor.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I didn't hear it, so you are right, it's only an assumption.
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Then perhaps as reasonable-minded people we shouldn't be treat anything they said as evidence, or use it as a basis for assumption.
 
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jimbob said:
It is more than that - the exchange below implies that the police chief at the time was unaware of any systems.
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Looks like he was only a Ferguson officer for 4 years, not 6.

Wilson, a longtime Missouri resident, has been an officer in Ferguson for four years and served in nearby Jennings for two years prior. Jackson said Wilson has no history of disciplinary action and described him as a “gentle man” and a “quiet officer.”
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http://news.yahoo.com/photos-fergus...police-award-earlier-this-year-021255893.html
 
Azrael 5 said:
Only just got onto this story and read some of the thread. On news this morning relatives of Brown are claiming he was on his knees surrendering when shot,whats the truth of this-by reading this thread not much!
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I haven't seen any witness reports claiming Brown was on his knees. But three witnesses - including Brown's friend and two independent witnesses - claim the officer shot Brown in the back and/or while he was in the act of surrendering with his hands in the air from some 20 feet away.
 
johnny karate said:
I haven't seen any witness reports claiming Brown was on his knees. But three witnesses - including Brown's friend and two independent witnesses - claim the officer shot Brown in the back and/or while he was in the act of surrendering with his hands in the air from some 20 feet away.
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I think that is extremely unlikely. Plus, there would be no way that I know of to prove that save for a video of the shooting itself.

How do we know these independent witnesses actually saw anything?
 
I'm not suggesting this but it is possible that witnesses saw Wilson shoot at Brown when he was facing away (in the back) but Wilson missed. Then Brown turns around facing Wilson and he gets hit.
 
LTC8K6 said:
It does roughly match the testimony of Wilson's friend, though.

So we have Wilson's friend and Brown's friend to counter each other.
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Was Wilson's friend there?

I still say it's down to the autopsy.
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It's always been down to the autopsy. So I'm honestly not sure why you dragged in two random people overheard on a Youtube video and starting making assumptions based on what they said.
 
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