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Michael Brown Shooting

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Axiom_Blade said:
Do these people have names? Who are they, and what did they say?


So, "a woman who only gave her first name on a local radio station". That's a reliable-sounding source. How do we know this woman was even at the scene?
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If you're referring to "Josie", she never claimed that she witnessed the event, she was providing Wilson's version of the story as she says was told to her, presumably because no one has really seen his detailed account and she wanted to get this information out there.
 
Lerxst said:
If you're referring to "Josie", she never claimed that she witnessed the event, she was providing Wilson's version of the story as she says was told to her, presumably because no one has really seen his detailed account and she wanted to get this information out there.
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...and various media have reported that sources within the various departments confirm that her third-hand narrative is similar to the first-hand narrative Wilson provided police.
 
Unabogie said:
On this note, people are always walking down the middle of my street on the way to the park. I just checked on Google maps, and it's 30 feet across. I see the local policeman drive by all the time, and we have nice conversations. He's never asked me to move even once, even though I'm taking up space with my dogs on their leashes.
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It's great that there is that sort of relationship with the police on your street..

Sounds a lot like my neighborhood..

That mitigates Brown & Johnson's behavior in what way ?

Also, there are other people who have is one other person who has come into contact with Darren Wilson who found him to be rude and aggressive.
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FTFY....
 
Kestrel said:
Where I live, people routinely jog or run in the streets even where sidewalks are available. For the most part, the cops ignore it. But I don't live in a town that balances the books by writhing tickets for trivial offenses.
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Or a town where teenage thugs walk defiantly down the middle of the street to demonstrate their power over the terrified local residents.
 
Axiom_Blade said:
Do these people have names? Who are they, and what did they say?


So, "a woman who only gave her first name on a local radio station". That's a reliable-sounding source. How do we know this woman was even at the scene?
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One of them is "Josie". However, Michael Brady confirms as well, at the same link:

"There was some kind of tussle" at the police car window, he said, and suddenly the pair took off running,
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I understand wanting links, but you could have just googled the phrases, or searched through the thread here and found them. No need for the hand holding, but whatever, there they are.
 
And the joggers and the strollers skitter off to the side to let cars go by. NOT the punks.
 
Unabogie said:
I'm not believing it, but I am noting that she exists and echoes what others one other person, who has a history of lying to the police, saw from claimed about Wilson. So anyone who claims that Wilson would never have been aggressive towards someone or yell "get the **** on the sidewalk" should consider this witness.
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I am not considering this witness if others can be dished off with even less. This person is not credible, the situation could be completely fictional, and there is no evidence in any way, shape, or form to corroborate this story. Find ANYTHING to substantiate it and I will be the first to apologize. Until then, this is just nonsense wrapped in a smearing wrapper.
 
carlitos said:
Or a town where teenage thugs walk defiantly down the middle of the street to demonstrate their power over the terrified local residents.
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With a little less hyperbole, this does happen.

People walking in the street also are tremendously more likely to be hit by cars- google it, I swear I am not kidding! But of course there is no way a policeman could possibly have concern for the safety of two black teens, maybe he was just trying to spare himself the aggravation of filling out an accident report.
 
Once again with the deserve death meme. The question here isn't that -- Michael Brown almost certainly didn't deserve to die. The question is who bears responsibility for the circumstances of that presumably undeserved death.
 
a_unique_person said:
Either one doesn't deserve death.
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Cylinder said:
Once again with the deserve death meme. The question here isn't that -- Michael Brown almost certainly didn't deserve to die. The question is who bears responsibility for the circumstances of that presumably undeserved death.
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As far as I know, Wilson wasn't screaming, "YOU WILL NEVER ROB A STORE OR WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AGAIN!!!!!" while firing his gun. Which makes that meme completely nonsensical. He wasn't shot for one single thing, he was shot because a series of events led to a situation that could or could not have justified the shooting. The unknown is if it was actually justified. I don't know either way, what I do know is busting that meme just makes the conversation circular, not progressive. We all know what is said about people who want the conversation to be circular.
 
plague311 said:
The hilited portion is wrong, and you should probably read up on this if you're going to take such a snarky tone.



So I mean, if by Wilson, you mean, multiple witnesses, then yes. He is the only one.

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In response to your, "right?" the answer is, no. You are not right. Not even close to being right. With such detail in this thread there's no reason to be so blindly clueless of the facts.
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You have the quote do you, of the witness who said "charged" at Wilson? Because the audio I heard the guy said "kept coming toward" which could be walking forward surrendering. The only thing lacking is saying his hands were up, but he doesn't say they were down either.

The woman who called the radio station wasn't a witness. She was repeating the story she heard second hand.

As for the multiple witnesses supporting Wilson's story, that's just a comment posted on Twitter with nothing to back the claim up.
 
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plague311 said:
Oh come on, seriously. You've chewed multiple people out on in this thread for not being skeptical of events. An unidentified woman tells a story that can't be backed up about a police officer that recently got in trouble and that doesn't throw up ANY warning signs to you? I don't normally have issue, but that is the opposite of skepticism. She's going to be arrested for pouring milk in her eyes? There can't even be a law against that, unless she refuses to pay for the milk. Then she goes on to say that her eyes are burning like mad, she can't get them to stop, but she can clearly make out his name tag to remember it and pray to god for revenge? That is beyond stupid and contradicting. Have you ever been maced? This is just laughable.
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You repeat rumors going round the right wing blogosphere as if it is actual evidence and you gripe because the video of an actual first hand account of an interaction with Wilson is posted?:rolleyes:
 
That was an interesting link to a forum
http://www.firerescue1.com/firefigh...rst-responders-handled-the-ferguson-shooting/

Ray Kemp · Top Commenter · St. Charles, Missouri
The problem of the body on the ground longer than normal was the unrest of the scene by the residents delayed the investigative process. The scene remained quite volatile for some time. Yes, I'm sure it added to the emotions of the residents, but for many of the residents, they simply did not understand that this shooting like any shooting takes time to investigate.
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Jerrod Nash
The body was left on the ground because the initial assessment made by the paramedic on scene was that the person's injuries were "incompatible with life", and there was no pulse. That turns the scene into a crime scene, and requires as little disturbance of evidence as possible. The injuries being such as they were would be why CPR was not performed.
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Axiom_Blade said:
Do these people have names? Who are they, and what did they say?


So, "a woman who only gave her first name on a local radio station". That's a reliable-sounding source. How do we know this woman was even at the scene?
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She wasn't. He doesn't know what he's talking about. "Josie" was giving a third hand account of what she was told happened.

Correction, "Josie" was repeating a story off of a fake FB page.
 
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