Michael Brown shooting II

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Cl1mh4224rd said:
What's there to pick up? I honestly can't argue (too long, anyway) with a man's perception of himself; that's futile.
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Uh, you said I did something and I provided links stating that was not the case. Nevermind though, I'm good with that.
 
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Upchurch said:
Me, too. No, wait. Not disappointed. What's the word?

Disgusted.

This thread has demonstrated the most sociopathic display of glee at death and destruction I've ever witnessed on this board. I've just about had my fill.
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I agree, while I haven't voiced anything about it, it is horrible. No one should relish in a victory that results in good people losing their cars, or businesses. It's deplorable and should be condemned.
 
Olowkow said:
The pictures of Wilson I have seen are just red superficial injuries to the right cheek.
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I am certainly not a doctor, but I have been in the presence of a doctor who was in the process of determining if a patient had a suborbital fracture.

You can not make that diagnosis from a still picture.

My sister took a pretty good blow to the face, knocked her out cold, but you couldn't tell that from the bruses on her face, as there were no superficial or other injuries visible on her face.
 
It's amazing to see the talking heads on CNN looking for anything and everything to blame.

Blame the timing of the announcement... blame the cops, blame the national guard, blame the DA, blame the mayor, blame whoever...

Just never, ever EVER even consider coming within 50,000 leagues of blaming those who actually deserve the blame: the rioters and looters themselves.

And why are these awful "parents" of Brown getting all this worship and deference? Yea, they lost a kid. A kid who very nearly killed an honest working police officer who was trying to protect their entire community from people like him. It very, very easily could've gone the other way with Wilson dead instead.

They should be out apologizing to Wilson for doing such an incredibly poor job of raising that thug, and begging forgiveness for their failure nearly resulting in his death, and actually resulting in the complete upheaval of his life.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
If they were to call these very same people savages and animals on any other day, they'd be rightfully mocked and/or shunned for such blatant bigotry.

If you're going to call these people animals for their current behavior, you have to be quite comfortable with the idea that they are animals, always; not just different from the rest of us, but inferior. After all, a lion is no less an animal when it's resting in the shade of a tree than when it's tearing flesh from a fresh kill.

Christmas comes early for the bigots, if only because they feel they can publicly and gleefully express their bigotry.

ETA: There's a saying that people are revealed in crisis. I propose that people are also revealed in victory.
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I would not call these rioters animals, because it would be demeaning to animals, most of whom are much better socialized and much better behaved than these rioters.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Now lawfully punishable by summary execution, it seems...
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Why so many straw men re: the reason Brown was shot?

Wasn't shot for shoplifting...
Wasn't shot for punching a cop...
Wasn't shot for being black...
Wasn't shot for jaywalking...

Was shot because he attacked a police officer and by going for that officer's service weapon engaged in an act which would reasonably be interpreted as attempting to murder said officer by any police department in this nation. Then, he squandered an undeserved subsequent opportunity to still come out of the situation alive despite having done that... by refusing all commands and refusing to admit defeat.

He was shot for choosing to continue to present himself as a deadly, aggressive threat to an officer who'd already learned first hand that he was perfectly willing to do something most people wouldn't even dream of doing, attacking and trying to kill a cop.

He deserved what he got. Society benefits from his departure. Wilson should have been promoted and given the key to the city, not lynched.
 
Tony Stark said:
I bet the GJ almost never indicts (not that they necessarily should) in those cases. While they indicts whoever the DA tells them to in other cases. Am I right?
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No.

In a case I'm intimately familiar with, as the victim was a personal friend, his murder went from second degree murder to vehicular manslaughter after the GJ, and by the judge (no jury) it eventually became misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter because after all, they exchanged **** you's before the incident and the murderer only ran Julius over with his truck, it's not like he shot him or something:

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Road-Rage-Driver-Jailed-His-truck-killed-2951208.php

Your understanding of the legal procedure of indictment is based on something other than reality.
 
I understand there are two sides to this story. I also understand the exact circumstances of the shooting still seem somewhat undefined. I also understand by whatever yardstick you measure, African Americans seem to come off second-best in their dealings with law enforcement. There is a long history of questionable incidents and many examples of gross misconduct by police.

To state that anyone who does not readily accept at face value the official explanation without question or reservation has no business posting messages on this forum is ridiculous. IMO arguments like that degrade this forum. As do posters acting like the whole thing is a big joke of little import to anyone outside this forum. This incident has impacted people across the United States. Many people, like me, wish they could believe the officer was truly justified in killing Michael Brown, only based on the history in this country, I think accepting that without question would be pretty naive.
 
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