Michael Brown shooting II

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Mumbles said:
Could you remind me of when OJ's detractors spent weeks getting attacked by police who essentially laid siege to their town? Or when the supposed prosecutor walked up and blamed the (then nonexistant) social media?
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Ummm someone has laid siege to this town a few times this last little while, but it hasn't been the police.
 
Tony Stark said:
You were saying...
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I was saying that nobody knew all of the evidence until today and nobody knew what the GJ decision would be. The fact that it took them two days is an indicator to me that it wasn't a predetermined outcome as you assert.

Read that twice this time and perhaps it will sink in.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Anyone looking at the evidence presented to the GJ, cannot reasonably argue that the process was biased in any way, imo.

http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html

The GJ had a fair shot to indict Wilson.

There just wasn't any evidence to do so.

Meaning there also wasn't any evidence for a prosecutor to run with.

Or to get past a PC hearing with.
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I'm not saying it was biased. I'm saying that presenting the evidence to the GJ in an unbiased manner made charges less likely and that they knew this. If they wanted charges they could have done it a way that was heavily biased in their favor and the GJ probably would have charged him. That's what usually happens.
 
Tony Stark said:
Their tactics at the very least made charges less likely. I knew this when they first announced it and I guarantee they did too.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_juries_in_the_United_States#Criticism

You were saying...
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Isn't it a good thing if the Grand Jury isn't used as a rubber stamp by the prosecutors? Yes, they are often abused by prosecutors who omit exculpatory evidence but that is an (allowed) abuse of the system in my (and the ABA's) opinion, not something that should be encouraged or emulated.
 
Tony Stark said:
I'm not saying it was biased. I'm saying that presenting the evidence to the GJ in an unbiased manner made charges less likely and that they knew this. If they wanted charges they could have done it a way that was heavily biased in their favor and the GJ probably would have charged him. That's what usually happens.
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Then what do you do at the trial with no evidence?
 
AG Holder: "While the grand jury proceeding has concluded, DOJ's investigation into the shooting of Michael Brown remains ongoing" #Ferguson
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I don't think that will help stem this violence, but they're trying.
 
Mike! said:
Skyfox is showing the Beauty Supply shop, engulfed in flames with the fire hoses laying on the ground where the fire fighters dropped them when shots were fired.
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Don't be silly, they just want to take advantage of the great deals on mascara today.
 
Yeah, looking at Wilson's own testimony...well, he admitted to firing at Brown in anger, with "tunnel vision". Claimed that grabbing a clearly obese 18 year old guy is like grabbing onto "Hulk Hogan". Claimed that Brown "bulked up" while being shot at. Claimed that he was looking at Wilson, the man who was shooting at him, as though he weren't there. Claimed that Brown had his arm under his waistband, for no apparent reason.

Yeah...I'd have voted to indict based simply on that fresh batch of fried nonsense, alone.
 
Iamafalser said:
I was saying that nobody knew all of the evidence until today and nobody knew what the GJ decision would be. The fact that it took them two days is an indicator to me that it wasn't a predetermined outcome as you assert.

Read that twice this time and perhaps it will sink in.
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It was clear to me when they said they were presenting all the evidence that this included some which was in Wilson's favor thus making charges less likely. This was a highly unusual move and not one that a prosecutor who wants charges would make.
 
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