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[crimresearch]

But they are. It's against many company policies to date subordinates, for example. And most states are at-will employment states, so a person can be fired for any reason at any time unless it is specifically illegal. I can fire a worker who happens to be homosexual tomorrow for absolutely no reason and face no legal consequences.

Because they aren't yet included in one of the groups where it would be illegal to base termination only on belonging to that group.

It was legal to fire someone for their race or religion until the 60s, and for being disabled until 1990.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

It takes a gradual shift in position, which is why this admin ruling is so significant. Sexual orientation is a group with a history of being discriminated against in law and in fact for no other reason than belonging to that group, and IMO, that should change.

 

[crimresearch]

So "former adult film stars," should be a protected class? Sorry, I'm not buying the logic. You can't change being homosexual, black, TG, etc. But you can certainly choose NOT participate in porn. If you do, you should be fully aware that such participation can have negative consequences for you down the line.

Absolutely. But crimresearch is suggesting that someone who participates in the BDSM community or swingers lifestyle should be part of a protected class. Those are chosen behaviors not unchangeable statuses like race, sexual orientation, etc. so I don't by the leap of logic.

Your label doesn't make being kinky a choice any more than being gay is.

 

[Caper]

Who people choose to consensually fall in love, or just plain have a sexual relationship with, shouldn't be a valid reason to fire them, or deny them full rights as a citizen.

The current mechanism in place, is to include those who have a history of being discriminated against, and spell out that belonging to that class gives protection against discrimination.

Part of that history has been labelling anything other than the heterosexual missionary position as a crime and a mental disorder.
That has gradually lifted for some but not all people, and I would like to see a continuation. Sadism and masochism will apparently be de-stigmatized in the coming DSM-V, all of these look like a good start to me.

What if you are a middle age man who openly campaigns for the laws against pedophilia to be overturned. Or if you openly read pedo literature (that might be illegal so I might have to take that out of my example.).... And what if that person gets fired from a daycare... even though no one can prove he ever acted on his desires..... Should that guy be protected?

 

[crimresearch]

What if you are a middle age man who openly campaigns for the laws against pedophilia to be overturned. Or if you openly read pedo literature (that might be illegal so I might have to take that out of my example.).... And what if that person gets fired from a daycare... even though no one can prove he ever acted on his desires..... Should that guy be protected?

The topic is consensual adult alternative sexual orientation.

Child molesting and bestiality are not consensual, as has been pointed out every time someone thinks they are being 'clever' by bringing them up.

 

[Caper]

The topic is consensual adult alternative sexual orientation.

Child molesting and bestiality are not consensual, as has been pointed out every time someone thinks they are being 'clever' by bringing them up.

Ok.... but just as an aside. Is bestiality always non consensual? I mean everyones had some horny dog try and hump their leg..... at least I did. Now if some sicko just bent over and let the dog do their thing..... isn't that kind of like consent?

 

[Caper]

The topic is consensual adult alternative sexual orientation.

Child molesting and bestiality are not consensual, as has been pointed out every time someone thinks they are being 'clever' by bringing them up.

Ok... What if middle age man. Claims do not like children sexually but openly admits he gets turned on by his sexual partners dressing up like children.... maybe has some weird diaper fetish or something. Can a day care deny that person employment? Would you feel comfortable sending your child to be taken care of by someone that had a weird fetish like that?