MI6 man found locked in a bag!

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This case is much stranger than any spy story. Gareth Williams, a GCHQ employee on secondment to MI6, was found dead, naked, in a padlocked bag in his bath, with the key in the bag with him. He had £15,000 worth of lady's designer clothes in his flat, which hadn't been worn. Here are some links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17790563
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17837869

It looks like he was into bondage. The second link describes how he had to get his landlady to cut him free when he'd tied himself to his bed, on a previous occasion. Can anyone work out how he managed to do that?

The police seem to have decided that someone must have helped him get into the bag, as they have shown that it is impossible for him to have done that on his own.

Anyway, it is all very strange.
 
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leon_heller said:
It looks like he was into bondage. The second link describes how he had to get his landlady to cut him free when he'd tied himself to his bed, on a previous occasion. Can anyone work out how he managed to do that?
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It's be easy to do with some sort of weight or spring-loaded system. Have some sort of cuffs tied to each other, and each tied to a line that is biased to pull them apart with a greater force than you can lift with one arm. Then cuff yourself, and release the connection between the cuffs. The weights/springs pull your arms apart, leaving you stuck, since they're too heavy for you to pull your arms back together.

Complicated, but not difficult.
 
I reckon someone else was there, the game went wrong and the guy died. SOmeone panicked and did a runner.

I don't think it's spy stuff. If someone in the business wanted him out of the way I don't think they would have done it in a way that drew so much attention to it.
 
Horatius, there were detailed photos of the padlock securing the lock on TV last night. It looks impossible.

On the other hand, if you've just murdered someone, do you lock their body in a holdall in such a way as to make it quite clear he a second party was involved in all this?

Rolfe.
 
Horatius said:
It's be easy to do with some sort of weight or spring-loaded system. Have some sort of cuffs tied to each other, and each tied to a line that is biased to pull them apart with a greater force than you can lift with one arm. Then cuff yourself, and release the connection between the cuffs. The weights/springs pull your arms apart, leaving you stuck, since they're too heavy for you to pull your arms back together.

Complicated, but not difficult.
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He was tied with ropes, presumably, since he had to be cut free.
 
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It's not clear how he died either. If he does like to get tied up in order to try and escape and somehow he managed to lock himself in the bag but couldn't escape, would it be obvious how he died by post mortem?
 
Rolfe said:
Horatius, there were detailed photos of the padlock securing the lock on TV last night. It looks impossible.

On the other hand, if you've just murdered someone, do you lock their body in a holdall in such a way as to make it quite clear he a second party was involved in all this?

Rolfe.
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I was talking about the earlier "Tied himself to a bed" situation.



leon_heller said:
He was tied with ropes, presumably, since he had to be cut free.
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Yeah, you could rig something similar with ropes, using slip knots or nooses.. It just has to be set up so once it's pulled tight, you can't undo it by yourself. It would certainly count as "tied to the bed" to the average landlady having to cut her freak tenant free, I expect.
 
Another possibility is that he got someone else to tie him to the bed, who then left. Something similar happened with the bag, and he suffocated before he was due to be released. I suppose that people who are into bondage set a time limit in that sort of situation, for safety reasons. The helper realised that he could be charged with manslaughter, and left. I wonder how long it would take to suffocate if one was doubled up in a sport bag like that? A bath seems a strange place for that sort of activity, though, and if it took place somewhere else, why put the bagged body in the bath?

It looks like it would take 30 minutes before the air ran out:

http://www.likera.com/forum/mybb/Thread-Self-bondage-in-travel-bag

People do go in for that form of bondage:

http://www.likera.com/sb/time-release.php

but they have safeguards, like those listed. Williams would presumably have known about them.

Some people have strange hobbies.
 
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A bath seems a strange place for that sort of activity, though, and if it took place somewhere else, why put the bagged body in the bath?
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Possibly to hold any 'leakage' just in case the body wasn't found for a long time?
 
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Possibly to hold any 'leakage' just in case the body wasn't found for a long time?
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There was 'leakage'. The policeman who found the body noticed a red fluid in the bath.

That was very considerate of the helper. He'd have had to carry or drag the bag to the bathroom and lift it into the bath, whilst in a state of panic. Perhaps it was an elaborate assisted suicide, and he didn't want to make a mess. If he was into bondage, he'd have died happy. That would be quite a good explanation, IMHO.
 
Maybe there was more than one 'helper'


ETA : OMG!! That would make it a conspiracy1111!!!!!eleventy!!!! (Obviously)
 
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Traces of his semen were found in the bathroom, and on his quilt.
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Well, this will surely crack the case! Never before in the History of Man has a man ever left traces of his own semen around his bathroom or bedroom!


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