Mexico Election Too Close To Call

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Q-Source said:
A journalist from La Jornada has documented how some official ballots were found in a rubbish hole outside Mexico City ( http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2006/07/05/index.php ), all with identification numbers that were reported by the IFE in its website as valid votes!!!. I mean, this clearly shows that the counting votes were manipulated and any "official" result by the IFE result will be in doubt.
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Now see how the story ended: http://www.esmas.com/noticierostelevisa/mexico/548501.html. What official ballots? What identification numbers? Proof of manipulation, or manipulation of the news?

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Q-Source said:
This is ridiculous, the evidence is documentated by many other people who has noticed manipulation of votes. Check these links:
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The tallies from 128,771 voting booths were registered during the preliminary count. That's 901,397 numbers that were entered manually, by humans that are anything but perfect. Do you honestly believe that no mistakes were made when typing the numbers? This "evidence" points more to misreading a number than actual fraud. I'm sure that if you did the same for all 128,711 booths, you would find similar mistakes that benefit the PRD. This is why it was a preliminary count, and why there's a recount going on.

Please get me straight. I'm simply trying to see things objectively and not be blinded by partisan fervor. All three major parties are equally guilty of irregularities.
 
Donks said:
The only clear evidence I have seen so far is that the states that voted for AMLO were counted faster than the states that voted for FC. I don't know whose fault that was, but at 3AM I could not care less.
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The votes are counted in a specific ascending numerical order. Based on the state and district numbers, I suppose.
 
And there we go, the PANistas are freaking out. With 97.70% counted, FC leads ALMO by 0.01%.

empeake said:
The votes are counted in a specific ascending numerical order. Based on the state and district numbers, I suppose.
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Yeah, but the counting in Campeche does not affect the counting in Guanajuato. There is a marked tendency for states won by PRD to get counted faster than states won by PAN.
 
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The official count is finished: Calderon wins.

From CNN.com

As predicted earlier, Lopez Obrador claims that the ruling party rigged the election in its favor. Let's hope the coming protests don't lead to violence.
 
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insomneac said:
The official count is finished: Calderon wins.
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Not exactly. Still 0.05% of the ballot tallies to be processed, but most are from states where the PAN is favored.

insomneac said:
From CNN.com

As predicted earlier, Lopez Obrador claims that the ruling party rigged the election in its favor. Let's hope the coming protests don't lead to violence.
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Well, he has been setting the stage for it.

Interesting fact: Today is "Democracy Day" in Mexico City. López Obrador instituted this day in 2001, to commemorate Cuauhtémoc Cárdenas' victory in the 1997 local elections. Funny how democracy is only democracy if you win, and fraud if you don't. Same old, tiresome, hackneyed, incendiary story as usual.

The real fraud in these elections is having 8 political parties, 5 presidential candidates, and not a single one of them worthy of the job.

ETA: I really hate politics. :catfight: :duck:
 
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empeake said:
Calderón will win if this trend continues. I project about 35.75% to 35.35%, which amounts to approximately only 167,300 votes. Hard to tell, though, since we don't know where the remaining ballots come from. Will be a race down to the wire.
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Close, but no cigar. Final tally, 35.88% to 35.31%. Now we get to look forward to AMLO whining and starting rallies and what not. Chances he just raises his problems with the electoral court instead of stirring **** up? I say slim to none.
 
Donks said:
Close, but no cigar. Final tally, 35.88% to 35.31%. Now we get to look forward to AMLO whining and starting rallies and what not. Chances he just raises his problems with the electoral court instead of stirring **** up? I say slim to none.
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One thing I find ironic is that, after so much complaining about the preliminary count, the official tally actually gave the PRD a lower percentage than the preliminary results (35.31% vs. 35.34%). He might want to think twice about a vote by vote tally. :)
 
empeake said:
One thing I find ironic is that, after so much complaining about the preliminary count, the official tally actually gave the PRD a lower percentage than the preliminary results (35.31% vs. 35.34%). He might want to think twice about a vote by vote tally. :)
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That just prooves the election was rigged. Or something.
 
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