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[Merged]Rape Plummets as Porn Proliferates

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Monday, November 5, 2007

Radical feminists have long believed that there's a connection between the objectification of women and porn. These study seems to show otherwise.

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Monday, November 5, 2007
IL - Is pornography a catalyst of sexual violence? No
In the 1980s, conservatives and feminists joined to fight a common nemesis: the spread of pornography. Unlike past campaigns to stamp out smut, this one was based not only on morality but also public safety. They argued that hard-core erotica was intolerable because it promoted sexual violence against women.

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http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/11/il-is-pornography-catalyst-of-sexual.html

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workout_girl said:
But if expanding the availability of hard-core fare doesn't prevent rapes, we can be confident from the experience of recent years that it certainly doesn't cause such crimes.
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While my inclination is to agree, in the absence of controlled, double-blind studies, the author is really saying more than he/she knows. Maybe rapes would have decreased just as much if there'd been no Internet with 244 million porn pages (I'm still trying to find the last 14 of them...); maybe the decrease would have been even greater without 244 million porn pages. There's really no way of telling for sure.

BTW, world's worst thread title.
 
ravdin said:
I recently read a report that religious fanatics are continuing to crusade against smut for military personnel:

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2007/11/gns_porn_071105/

It's more than a little ironic that Wildmon and his ilk find it so objectionable for soldiers who are ostensibly fighting for our freedom to read whatever they want.
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Well, if looking at porn makes soldiers less interested in committing violence, I'm all for taking away their internet access... :rolleyes:
 
Guess my cursor only copied the date and not the title. Tried to edit, but won't allow title edit.
 
BPSCG said:
Well, if looking at porn makes soldiers less interested in committing violence, I'm all for taking away their internet access... :rolleyes:
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If that's the case, by all means let's airdrop crates of Hustler into the insurgent strongholds!
 
I still want to know how this theory pans out when applied to my gay porn.

Not that I have gay porn, it was for a friend, not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
BPSCG said:
While my inclination is to agree, in the absence of controlled, double-blind studies, the author is really saying more than he/she knows. Maybe rapes would have decreased just as much if there'd been no Internet with 244 million porn pages (I'm still trying to find the last 14 of them...);
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I got 'em. They're not all that great. Stick with the first 244 million.

Michael
 
BPSCG said:
Maybe rapes would have decreased just as much if there'd been no Internet with 244 million porn pages (I'm still trying to find the last 14 of them...); maybe the decrease would have been even greater without 244 million porn pages.
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coalesce said:
I got 'em. They're not all that great. Stick with the first 244 million.
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I'd like to know how they counted them. Who decides whether a website qualifies as "erotic"?
 
Actually if porn caused rape then women would be routinely raped. Since this does not happen then their can be no connection between rape and porn.

Should we reduce censorship to allow explicit rape scenes in movies?
 
One day, when bluebirds fly over the rainbow and reality is accepted as a good thing, we will be able to say in public what everyone knows in private.

Pornography leads to masturbation.
 
There are certainly a spread of views on the matter, not to mention a number of seminal papers.
 
This is an issue that has been close to my heart for years. I am deeply concerned that violent porn may cause violence against women. Because of this, I have taken it upon myself to independently and thoroughly examine as many porn sites as I can find, to ensure that they are not encouraging violence against women.

It's a tough job, but I am willing to do it...... for humanity.
 
This article contains some food for thought about pornography and its relationship (or lack thereof) with rape.

Leaving aside for a moment the issue of how the porn itself is produced, what do we know about its effect, if any, on the people who view it? Are they more or less likely to commit rape? Or is there no effect either way?

One important piece of evidence is the following:
Though the Bush administration has put new emphasis on prosecuting obscenity, on the grounds that it fosters violence against women, pornography is more available now than ever.

That's due in substantial part to the rise of the Internet, where the United States alone has a staggering 244 million Web pages featuring erotic fare. One Nielsen survey found that one out of every four users say they visited adult sites in the last month.

So in the last two decades, we have conducted a vast experiment on the social consequences of such material. If the supporters of censorship were right, we should be seeing an unparalleled epidemic of sexual assault. But all the evidence indicates they were wrong. As raunch has waxed, rape has waned.

This is part of a broad decrease in criminal mayhem. Since 1993, violent crime in America has dropped by 58 percent. But the progress in this one realm has been especially dramatic. Rape is down 72 percent and other sexual assaults have fallen by 68 percent. Even in the last two years, when the FBI reported upticks in violent crime, the number of rapes continued to fall.
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A 70% drop in rape has happened at the same time as the availability of porn has expanded. I think this is pretty strong evidence that at the very least, viewing porn doesn't cause rape, and probably in fact has the opposite effect.
 
Is rape really down by 72% compared to 1993??

According to this data http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html it has gone from 41/100000 (in 1993) to about 32/100000 (in 2005). How is that a 72% drop? What figures were being used by the article? Also, choosing 1993 as a comparison year is a bit misleading since it was pretty much a high point. Rates had been increasing before then, and then declined after then. So pretty much any date you could have picked would be low in comparison and could be used to prove whatever you like. You ca't use two points to find a correlation and any article that does so is misleading in order the bolster their own argument.

I haven't looked into whether pornography and rape are related, and hold no opinion about it, but that is just misleading.
 
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Good question. Maybe his numbers are wrong?
I had assumed he was quoting reliable numbers, but maybe I was wrong about that.
Steve Chapman writes for the Chicago Tribune so I assumed his facts were basically accurate.

Still, even if the drop is less dramatic, it is still a significant decrease, no?
 
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