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[Merged]LCFC Errors / Loose Change Final Cut

ref said:
And he also says something along the lines of the passport surviving 9000 gallons of jet fuel exploding. As if all the jet fuel was used to soak the passport and then exploded. The cockpit has no jet fuel. The wings do. And thousands of papers were on the streets after the impacts. They didn't burn either.
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Funny thing is I have done test to see how likely it is for a document to survive a jet fuel blast, the blast front expanding air ahead of the fire Shields the paper, 87% of the time, the passport should survive that is what should happen can not believe how Dumb the Loose change film makers actually are.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Funny thing is I have done test to see how likely it is for a document to survive a jet fuel blast, the blast front expanding air ahead of the fire Shields the paper, 87% of the time, the passport should survive that is what should happen can not believe how Dumb the Loose change film makers actually are.
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Your tests are the best :D Just confirms how not unlikely at all it was to find that passport in such a good condition.
 
TC329 said:
So you're now actually denying AA11 remained on the radar after it's impact with the North Tower?

Really?

Please say yes.
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I just ran across this gem from the first page.

TC, am I reading this right?

You want someone to "deny" AA11 remained on the radar after it's impact, correct?

Ok, I deny it. Duh.

Was another plane MISTAKEN for AA11? Perhaps. But, if you read through many of the accounts (including cheapshots) you'll find that someone probably was just passing "old" information along leading the controllers and others to think AA11 was still airborne.

How could it still be on the radar after it crashed? Are you a no planer?
 
Brainster said:
Just listened to Alex Jones' broadcast today. He went into the second hour before plugging LCFC, which again reinforced my impression that Jones and the LC kids are somewhat on the skids. He made a claim that he personally will have to declare bankruptcy if Loose Change isn't a success.
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And you said that nothing good could come from this movie. :D

It is actually ironic that Mr anti-federal-reserve would have to rely on the modern credit system...
 
Undesired Walrus said:
So, does the Cheney/Bush debacle at the Commission situation require comment?
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I don't doubt that the reason for testifying together was so that there wouldn't be any minor, embarrassing contradictions between the two sets of testimony that could be seized on by either the partisans or the conspiracy theorists. Bush was in a position to demand this and he did. Liberals are in a position to criticize it and they did. Conspiracy theorists are in a position to find it mysterious and they did.
 
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I didn't mean errors of fact, I meant coding errors, lol

I haven't watched the whole thing, but so far it is synched okay and all.

One funny thing I just noticed that when Dylan talks about those who believe a 757 did not hit the Pentagon, he says they are "fueled" by lack of structural debris, etc., but they way he pronounces it, it comes out sounding like "fooled".
 
Undesired Walrus said:
I thought by far the most compelling video he showed was of George Bush holding the news conference in which he wanted to have the testimonial behind closed doors and not under oath, with Dick Cheney (In order to get their evidence straight wink wink).

It was very edgy and mysterious, which indeed is the loose change way. And it proves to be effective propoganda. At least in my eyes.

I managed to hammer it into myself however that this proves absolutely nothing other than it is a bit fishy.

Any takers on this?
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Well what they don't say is that the likes of Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Madeline Albright, Richard A. Clarke, all of which testified under oath and in the public, with the exception of Al Gore.

Is Dylan going to say that all of these govenment officials lied under oath (except Al) to protect Dick and George? This is why it doesn't matter much to me that they weren't under oath, because so many in their cabinet were.
 
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A W Smith said:
Well. I guess i can just delete the 14 1/2 megabytes out of 631 I started to download last night on Azureus, Nothing to see here. Or maybe I should just continue to download and not view it just to share it. It would be like knifing dylans pockets.
In the time it took me to type this its already at 54 megabytes.
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Just curious, why would you want to take away portions of the proceeds that will be going to benefit first responser's and their families? :confused:

Or are you willing to give that portion of the proceeds the FealGood Foundation out of your own pocket instead of paying for the film?

Or are you more interested in viewing the film for free rather than helping out first responders?
 
Swing Dangler said:
Just curious, why would you want to take away portions of the proceeds that will be going to benefit first responser's and their families? :confused:

Or are you willing to give that portion of the proceeds the FealGood Foundation out of your own pocket instead of paying for the film?

Or are you more interested in viewing the film for free rather than helping out first responders?
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That's a great idea - people could donate a few bucks to an appropriate charity when you download the video for free, rather than mess around with paid downloads etc. After all, Louder Than Words said they'll donate more than United 93 did to charity, right - so they need all the donations they can get (and of course Avery et al won't be taking any money for themselves, right?) if they're ever going to reach that $1.25m donation :D

Maybe someone should suggest this on the Loose Change forum? How about $7 donation if you download and watch the video for free, and $10 if you download the video for free and don't watch all of it...
 
Swing Dangler said:
Just curious, why would you want to take away portions of the proceeds that will be going to benefit first responser's and their families? :confused:
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If I purchased the FC download, only 70 cents would be going to the victims and first responders. I'd rather give that complete 7 dollars to them than have $6.30 go into Dylan's pockets.
 
Swing Dangler said:
Just curious, why would you want to take away portions of the proceeds that will be going to benefit first responser's and their families? :confused:

Or are you willing to give that portion of the proceeds the FealGood Foundation out of your own pocket instead of paying for the film?

Or are you more interested in viewing the film for free rather than helping out first responders?
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No monies will ever make it to the foundation. Alex Jones said just today that he will go bankrupt if this film don't take off. He lamented having to support four people over the course of two years.
You may also want to ask Louder Than Words LLC why they officially released a full length version on Google Video, In that respect They themselves are cheating the feal good foundation.


and since dylan is done making videos why dont he sell off his gigantic flat screens and editing equipment along with his ATVs? Donate Those proceeds.
 
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Swing Dangler said:
Just curious, why would you want to take away portions of the proceeds that will be going to benefit first responser's and their families? :confused:

Or are you willing to give that portion of the proceeds the FealGood Foundation out of your own pocket instead of paying for the film?

Or are you more interested in viewing the film for free rather than helping out first responders?
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I'd rather give the first responders the 7.50 than help pay for Avery, Bermass, and Rowe's way through life.
 
A W Smith said:
Alex Jones said just today that he will go bankrupt if this film don't take off. He lamented having to support four people over the course of two years.
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I was thinking about that - how much of a hole can you get into from supporting four people with living expenses etc? I've done bits of work for 'good causes' for little or no money - and it's surprising how little you can spend if you cut back on non-essentials (and working excessive hours helps reduce spending opportunities, too :D ). I wonder how much money the four got through in 2 years...?
 
Unsecured Coins said:
If I purchased the FC download, only 70 cents would be going to the victims and first responders. I'd rather give that complete 7 dollars to them than have $6.30 go into Dylan's pockets.
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No, he said they would donate 10% of the profits. After buying a new plasma tv, Alex Jones and DRg's fees and some more ATVs, how much profit do you think they will make off of this?
 
Brainster said:
I don't doubt that the reason for testifying together was so that there wouldn't be any minor, embarrassing contradictions between the two sets of testimony that could be seized on by either the partisans or the conspiracy theorists. Bush was in a position to demand this and he did. Liberals are in a position to criticize it and they did. Conspiracy theorists are in a position to find it mysterious and they did.
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But Brainster, this is such a boring and mundane explanation.

Can you jazz it up a bit?

Actually, here is something extra, why no oath?
 
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Why'd Al Gore testify under the same exact conditions?

As I said, the rest of Dubya's cabinet testified in public and under oath, so what's it matter really?
 
Thinking..

George Bush and Dick Cheney are willing to fib infront of the entire world for 6 years, but feel an oath is too far.

Is there perhaps any law that cannot be inforced if you testify whilst not under oath?
 
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