Medium to the Stars?

It sounds like the basis for the method is to let people who want to be fooled fool themselves- they're already leaning into it, you just don't stand in their way.

Unless of course it is you that is being fooled in the same way that thousands of people posting derisive comments on this forum years ago to ridicule UFOs are, it turns out, likely wrong. Wrong, given the latest Pentagon and video evidence. Given the Navy pilots on 60 Minutes with footage, the large numbers of video sightings (such as over Phoenix).
 
How many commercially broadcast television shows have you personally participated in producing? An actual number, please.

How many commercially broadcast television shows have the people participating in this forum produced? What's that? Zero? Oh....I see. You have managed to disqualify every contributor here.
 
Your are distorting my point, which was in response to a NDA keeping anyone of a hundred people from coming forward. I would image some TV shows are fake, some are real.

What no evidence? You've got a TV show that has a national audience and not one client or crew member--at any given time there are estimated 80 people working backstage. You may not agree, but that is certainly evidence.

I didn't expect you would buy what I'm saying--if we agree there is little value in the discussion, right?--but the close mindedness has caught me off guard.

How do you know that Henry is committing fraud or that he is not talking to the dead?

I did not distort your point. I simplified it. A highly edited and scripted tv program is not evidence of anything but entertainment(in some opinions). If you can't see how edited tv is not proof of anything, there is likely no hope for you. I can try to explain this as simply as I can in hopes it gets through. Those crew members are likely paid very well for working on that show. They also very likely signed NDA's. So what is the motivation to blow a whistle? Lose a huge paycheck and likely get sued in the process because what - Everyone has a conscience? Wishful thinking at best. Money and self preservation will always come first. Who would hire them again after that?
 
That is not evidence. At all. It's barely even a suggestion of something.

The most common way people like you are fooled is not by a fraud pretending to be real, rather by an inability to see new truths or evidence until the evidence becomes obvious.

The penalty for this is that you are the last to know. The last to discover new ideas.

You say "this is not evidence," when the evidence is staring you in the face.
 
Who would hire them again after that?

Winner! Even if an NDA turns out to be unenforceable, people who blow the whistle on their employers rarely work in the industry again. They may be blowing the whistle on something that's a legitimate concern, and the employers may very well get in trouble because of it. But they still get blackballed. There is so much competition for jobs in the film and TV business (especially the union ones) that no one is going to risk being blackballed for "outing" a show that's basically just good fun for those who enjoy such things. There is no "fundamental honesty" in a film crew that's going to create some vexing moral dilemma.
 
The most common way people like you are fooled is not by a fraud pretending to be real, rather by an inability to see new truths or evidence until the evidence becomes obvious.

The penalty for this is that you are the last to know. The last to discover new ideas.

You say "this is not evidence," when the evidence is staring you in the face.

Is James Van Praagh a real medium?
 
Not one so called psychic, including Henry, has passed a simple blind test which would demonstrate his claimed ability beyond any reasonable doubt. What would you say that is evidence of, Sphinx?
 
I did not distort your point. I simplified it. A highly edited and scripted tv program is not evidence of anything but entertainment(in some opinions). If you can't see how edited tv is not proof of anything, there is likely no hope for you. I can try to explain this as simply as I can in hopes it gets through. Those crew members are likely paid very well for working on that show. They also very likely signed NDA's. So what is the motivation to blow a whistle? Lose a huge paycheck and likely get sued in the process because what -

Everyone has a conscience? Wishful thinking at best. Money and self preservation will always come first. Who would hire them again after that?

You need one person with a conscience and you always get that. You don't have to step forward publicly to blow a show apart. Just step foward.

The point being made was not dependent on the scripted aspects of a TV show. That is irrelevant.
#1 Whenever you involved a hundred plus people working on something that gets weekly national TV exposure and people know massive numbers are are being fooled---that secret won't last long. Evidence for this is the number of other TV shows that have been outed. Especially once the show is off the air.

#2 I don't think you have watched the show or seem Henry do what he does in person. If he's a fraud, he's the greater actor than Brando. It is not possible for someone to do what he does weekly in front of reasonably sophisticated people with an enormous theater/acting background. Clearly, watching the show and his performance, he believes what he is doing is real. Otherwise, we'd see through it quickly.

#3 Unless the entire crew is involved in massive fraud, he had has produced client information for which there is no easy explanation, and certainly it is hard to explain the emotional response from his clients and their willingness to talk glowingly of him, post performance.

If he's a fraud, we don't know how he does what he does. I've watched cold readers over the years and none come close to reaching people as Henry does, weekly.

#4 As previously explained an NDA is useless. They never last longer than one year and they don't cover coming forward with fraud. Good Morning, America would put you on TV in a heartbeat with your voice disguised if you could blow apart someone like Henry. The National Enq would write a fat check.

I google "TV shows exposed as fraud" and some other variations, and quickly came up with 24 shows, some of which my wife watches now. NDA does not matter. These four will get you started and I think I can get you 30 TV shows, total with more time.

House Hunters & House Hunters International.
The Pickup Artist.
Storage Wars. .
Alaskan Bush People.
Catfish
 
I don't need to watch him "do what he does". He isn't the first to pull this con and he won't be the last. There is nothing special about him in that respect. Just because this one seems to have struck your fancy means nothing to me. Although you seem to also be enamored with John Edward. Until any one of them submits to an actual test and proves the ability, I will continue to remain unimpressed. I do not get my "facts" from scripted/edited tv programs.
 
#1 Whenever you involved a hundred plus people working on something that gets weekly national TV exposure and people know massive numbers are are being fooled---that secret won't last long. Evidence for this is the number of other TV shows that have been outed. Especially once the show is off the air.

Why would they need to tell every member of the crew what was really going on?
 
How many commercially broadcast television shows have the people participating in this forum produced? What's that? Zero? Oh....I see. You have managed to disqualify every contributor here.

That number is at least one. Me back from 1998 to 2000. Not the garbage "reality" shows they feed the masses these days but actual investigative shows like CBC Marketplace. The only reason we had to sign NDAs was to make sure the upcoming segments weren't leaked to the targets.

I wasn't the producer though, just an assistant to the segment producer.
 
Not one so called psychic, including Henry, has passed a simple blind test which would demonstrate his claimed ability beyond any reasonable doubt. What would you say that is evidence of, Sphinx?

He passes that test every week his show is on the air. Didn't John Edwards agree to be blind measured at the Univ of AZ? And rather than note the "hits," during readings where his back was turned, they went after the scientist who conducted the study, ignoring Edwards "hits."

I've had people tell me things they could not possibly have known. One "hit" is worth how many misses in your mind? Someone says "you have a wooden jewelry box and inside that box is a note from your Mom, before she died. It isn't just a hit, it is the perfect hit and the guy on TV gets clearly emotional and this happens week after week. The psychic could have said something else that lacked emotional resonance ("there is a baseball in a drawer"), but didn't.

So maybe the next few "reads" are wrong. What are the odds for the wooden box with a note from my Mom? How do we calculate that? One in five hundred? (Meaning if you had 500 guesses, you'd hit upon wooden box and note from Mom and that resonating emotionally with me by pure chance.

A few weeks ago, I read a Gallup poll that suggested 38% of adults in US believe they have communicated with a departed loved one (up from 28% 20 years ago).
 
He passes that test every week his show is on the air. Didn't John Edwards agree to be blind measured at the Univ of AZ? And rather than note the "hits," during readings where his back was turned, they went after the scientist who conducted the study, ignoring Edwards "hits."

I've had people tell me things they could not possibly have known. One "hit" is worth how many misses in your mind? Someone says "you have a wooden jewelry box and inside that box is a note from your Mom, before she died. It isn't just a hit, it is the perfect hit and the guy on TV gets clearly emotional and this happens week after week. The psychic could have said something else that lacked emotional resonance ("there is a baseball in a drawer"), but didn't.

So maybe the next few "reads" are wrong. What are the odds for the wooden box with a note from my Mom? How do we calculate that? One in five hundred? (Meaning if you had 500 guesses, you'd hit upon wooden box and note from Mom and that resonating emotionally with me by pure chance.

A few weeks ago, I read a Gallup poll that suggested 38% of adults in US believe they have communicated with a departed loved one (up from 28% 20 years ago).
Truth is not a popularity contest.

Belief <> fact.
 
A few weeks ago, I read a Gallup poll that suggested 38% of adults in US believe they have communicated with a departed loved one (up from 28% 20 years ago).

Why do you keep repeating this as if it means something?

You should know by now what passes for true evidence here by now. Constantly trying to get us to watch his show isn't going to work so what exactly is your main purpose in this act?
 
That number is at least one. Me back from 1998 to 2000. Not the garbage "reality" shows they feed the masses these days but actual investigative shows like CBC Marketplace. The only reason we had to sign NDAs was to make sure the upcoming segments weren't leaked to the targets.

I wasn't the producer though, just an assistant to the segment producer.

You make my point. We're not discussing leaking a show in advance. We are talking about exposing fraud. ("Hey, I know how Henry does his reads.")

You were not required to sign an NDA stopping you from exposing fraud. I sign NDAs all the time and they are #1 Impossible to enforce; #2 Are never valid over one year unless national security is involved; #3 Don't cover fraud. #4 It is easy to disguise where the exposed TV information originated.
 
He passes that test every week his show is on the air.

Because he takes the standard precautions to ensure it succeeds. Do you really think an edited television show will broadcast an episode that fails?

I've had people tell me things they could not possibly have known.

Or so you believe. The stage mentalist industry is built on finding out things about people that they think are secret, and various other tricks.

One "hit" is worth how many misses in your mind?

No amount of uncontrolled "hits" is probative for me, so long as the protocol is the standard entertainment footing.

A few weeks ago, I read a Gallup poll that suggested 38% of adults in US believe they have communicated with a departed loved one (up from 28% 20 years ago).

Are you seriously arguing that just because something is believed, it must therefore be true? I live in a state where 2 million people believe that a boy in New York dug up a golden book and translated it from Egyptian all by himself, and thereafter spoke regularly with God. What is that worth to you?
 
Why do you keep repeating this as if it means something?

You should know by now what passes for true evidence here by now. Constantly trying to get us to watch his show isn't going to work so what exactly is your main purpose in this act?

So you only want to be exposed to ideas and opinions that you already have? You only want to consider "true evidence?" Really? You come here to learn what you already know?

You have a strong opinions about Henry's show, but "it isn't going to work" to get you to actually watch his show? Really? There was a TV show in the 1970's called "All in the Family," featuring Archie Bunker. You might check it out. See yourself.
 

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