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Maybe Trump will not be such a terrible president.

Mycroft

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Mycroft
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He used to be a Democrat, the Republican establishment fought against him, and just because he draws the racist vote doesn't mean he will be a racist president.

He may turn out to be a centrist who can get things done.
 
Mycroft said:
He used to be a Democrat, the Republican establishment fought against him, and just because he draws the racist vote doesn't mean he will be a racist president.

He may turn out to be a centrist who can get things done.
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He's a moron. He's not a centrist. He's a moron. He's not a Democrat, or a Republican. He's a moron.

This isn't going to go well, and somehow being able to say "I told you so" when spoken on top of the ashes of my country doesn't give me comfort.
 
Argumemnon said:
This is just you trying to console yourself, right?
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Mythbusters proved you could indeed polish a turd.

I'm not looking forward to it, but it's not necessarily a disaster. At least he's not George W Bush.
 
The Million dollar question is how much of what Donald did during the campaign was what he really thinks, and how much of it was just crap he spewed to get people to vote for Him?
 
I think he'll surprise me, but only because my expectations are so low he can't help but exceed them. Yet another reason to be thankful I live in the UK.
 
dudalb said:
The Million dollar question is how much of what Donald did during the campaign was what he really thinks, and how much of it was just crap he spewed to get people to vote for Him?
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That's the thing, right?

He's not going to build a wall or ban Muslims. He doesn't have the power to do that. Most of what he said campaigning is nonsensical, so we really have no idea what kind of president he will be.
 
And there is bit too much End Of the World whining in a lot of the threads here.
 
Maybe Trump will not be such a terrible president.

Maybe **** won't stink anymore.
 
He has only run his businesses in dictatorial, vengeful manner.

That is not going to play well, even with the Republicans in Congress. Remember, most of them despise him. They will get alone as long as he does what they want, which won't be for long if ever.

The only way Trump could be a good president is if right after taking the oath he has a massive coronary and falls on Mike Pence snapping Pence's neck on the way down. I'll take Paul Ryan over those two.
 
Spindrift said:
He has only run his businesses in dictatorial, vengeful manner.

That is not going to play well, even with the Republicans in Congress. Remember, most of them despise him. They will get alone as long as he does what they want, which won't be for long if ever.

The only way Trump could be a good president is if right after taking the oath he has a massive coronary and falls on Mike Pence snapping Pence's neck on the way down. I'll take Paul Ryan over those two.
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And congress, regardless of party, is very militant about protecting it's powers and rights. There is a long history of Presidents having very bloody battles with congress when their party was in control when they felt the Presidnet was muscling into their turf.
 
Mycroft said:
He used to be a Democrat, the Republican establishment fought against him, and just because he draws the racist vote doesn't mean he will be a racist president.

He may turn out to be a centrist who can get things done.
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And maybe the sun will rise in the West tomorrow. It's about as likely.
 
Meh. I think it's reflective of america's general dissatisfaction with politicians. Remember when Obama first ran? All the outcry about him not having enough political experience to hold that office? But he got voted in anyway, with a fair bit of support from people who tend to lean more to the conservative side. I think a lot of the same thing is at play here. Sure, there's all the campaign bluster and asinine comments, all the perceived racism and sexism, all the idiocy. But at the end of the day he isn't a politician. I suspect that played in to the outcome more than we'd like to think.

I know that I'm completely fed up with this two-party system. I'm tired of parties pursuing party interests, instead of the interests of the citizens. I'm sick of these ideologues using our system of government as their power game. None of them are actually governing the union responsibly.

Trump wouldn't have been my first choice, but neither would Clinton have been. I want someone different.
 
With the GOP in control of both houses of Congress and, presumably, the Executive and Judicial branches, the ACA is probably going to be repealed with the "pre-existing conditions" clause along with it. If that happens, it will be devastating to the millions of Americans who were able to get health insurance because of the ACA and especially my friends and family with kids who have survived, or are currently fighting, cancer.

If Trump follows through with his promise to repeal the ACA without immediately replacing it with ...something that hasn't even been mentioned yet, there will be no definition where Trump would not be considered a terrible president.


ETA: Of course, there is always the possibility that Trump was merely lying about repealing the ACA, as he has done about so many other things.
 
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Upchurch said:
With the GOP in control of both houses of Congress and, presumably, the Executive and Judicial branches, the ACA is probably going to be repealed with the "pre-existing conditions" clause along with it. If that happens, it will be devastating to the millions of Americans who were able to get health insurance because of the ACA and especially my friends and family with kids who have survived, or are currently fighting, cancer.

If Trump follows through with his promise to repeal the ACA without immediately replacing it with ...something that hasn't even been mentioned yet, there will be no definition where Trump would not be considered a terrible president.
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Republicans are perfectly fine with *********** over millions of people to make sure rich people pay a little less in taxes.

They won't replace the ACA with anything worth mentioning. Maybe the backlash will work against them but I doubt it.
 
Spindrift said:
He has only run his businesses in dictatorial, vengeful manner.

That is not going to play well, even with the Republicans in Congress. Remember, most of them despise him. They will get alone as long as he does what they want, which won't be for long if ever.

The only way Trump could be a good president is if right after taking the oath he has a massive coronary and falls on Mike Pence snapping Pence's neck on the way down. I'll take Paul Ryan over those two.
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Damn. We have reached a place where Paul Ryan would be a nice change.

If the UK is leaving the EU, maybe they could take back a misguided former colony? An Atlantic Union, perhaps? I would totally commit to treason against the USA in order to get a little sanity back.
 
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