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Mass Graves at a Cemetery?

Ohnoes

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I couldn't believe they reported this, but none the less I felt I would address and show it for what it really is....Fear Mongering!:boxedin:

The original article is here http://www.infowars.com/military-industrial-complex-prepares-mass-graves-for-us-citizens/

To make it simple the author is trying to point out that it's unusual that mass graves are being built @ a Veteran Cemetery in Arizona while providing little proof of it's evil motives.

First off by doing a small bit of poking around and actually reading the VA site it explains that this land has been and is still in development. http://www1.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=251

The cemetery, which is located on Pinnacle Peak Road just east of Cave Creek Road, still has 104 acres of land to be developed. Currently, more than 31,000 veterans and their eligible dependents are buried there. The national cemetery will provide more than 46,800 burial spaces -- including columbarium and garden niches -- once the 225-acre cemetery is fully developed.

Now this can be confirmed that in 2008 they were seeking contractors to take on this bid and the time frame seems about right for them to begin building.

https://www.fbo.gov/index?&s=opport...260d87b01595d42c4eee28d&tab=core&tabmode=list

Now in that document the job seeks out for the contractor to put into place 7,600 lawn crypts and infowars says that the "driver" (I'll get to him in a moment) claims that each crypt can hold four caskets. Now I did some research on that and it is true that they will double stack caskets. However, the numbers given by the author are pretty ridiculous since he provides no number amount of crypts that he saw first hand but somehow comes up with the number of 4000 troops or 40,000 civilians. Now I cannot verify that the contracting job from above is the same job that is currently going on there, but it's location and time frame are very close and if it is the same job then his 4000 number is easily debunked.

From the satellite view there appears to be more sections that have been covered with the concrete lids and backfilled to look as if nothing is there.

Well first off I would like to see these magical satellite pictures unless you mean google earth which I can't see anything but dirt on. So yes he is correct for me to assume it looks like nothing is there, but I also don't see any signs of people working from "dust till dawn" and since google earth doesn't' update everyday and sometimes not for over a year or so I'm going to have to say unless he provides this "satellite" proof, then it doesn't exist. I'm not denying that work is going on there mind you, but denying that they are hiding graves because covering up the graves is what you do. Are you telling me they should just leave them open and uncovered until someone is put into one? I know the readers are gullible but jeez..

Lastly the driver...I will assume he is not native to our country because he said this “ I got paid a whole lot of money to speak good english.” which is questioned as suspect. How is that suspect? Lets say he came from another country with nothing and now makes lots of money which can happen when you have no money!

"The Size Standard is $31 Million. The magnitude of this project is between $2,000,000 and $5,000,000."

So there you have it folks...A mass grave site being built right off N. Cave Creek Road in Arizona so why not go visit it? It seems the friendly government agents dressed like construction workers will let you take pictures and everything!
 
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You really, really,Ohnoes, need to nominate that for a Stundie. I am giving you first chance, if it not nominated by tommorow I will do the deed.
 
You really, really,Ohnoes, need to nominate that for a Stundie. I am giving you first chance, if it not nominated by tommorow I will do the deed.

I almost forgot about the Stundies, but I nominated it's mathematical highlights! Thanks for reminding me dudalb!:D
 
Great stuff - they are preparing graves at a cemetary, and what else? I've never heard of this method but it makes some sense, maybe - dig it all out and intall re-accessible crypts - actually kinda spooky given the zombie re-animation programs the Army was working on. This would make it a lot easier. :jaw-dropp

from the satellite view there appears to be more sections that have been covered with the concrete lids and backfilled to look as if nothing is there.

This is hilarious - that's what we should expect to see, but you couldn't from Google earth, which is probably what he's looking at. Lemme guess - the lids are about 300 mi wide, square, and affect the cloud cover in the area as well... lollll
 
They are preparing for 4000 US Servicemen's deaths???

Considering that 1000 veterans are dying per day, that seems low.

(man those mutts at infowars are stupid)
 
I couldn't believe they reported this, but none the less I felt I would address and show it for what it really is....Fear Mongering!:boxedin:

The original article is here http://www.infowars.com/military-industrial-complex-prepares-mass-graves-for-us-citizens/

To make it simple the author is trying to point out that it's unusual that mass graves are being built @ a Veteran Cemetery in Arizona while providing little proof of it's evil motives.

First off by doing a small bit of poking around and actually reading the VA site it explains that this land has been and is still in development. http://www1.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=251



Now this can be confirmed that in 2008 they were seeking contractors to take on this bid and the time frame seems about right for them to begin building.

https://www.fbo.gov/index?&s=opport...260d87b01595d42c4eee28d&tab=core&tabmode=list

Now in that document the job seeks out for the contractor to put into place 7,600 lawn crypts and infowars says that the "driver" (I'll get to him in a moment) claims that each crypt can hold four caskets. Now I did some research on that and it is true that they will double stack caskets. However, the numbers given by the author are pretty ridiculous since he provides no number amount of crypts that he saw first hand but somehow comes up with the number of 4000 troops or 40,000 civilians. Now I cannot verify that the contracting job from above is the same job that is currently going on there, but it's location and time frame are very close and if it is the same job then his 4000 number is easily debunked.



Well first off I would like to see these magical satellite pictures unless you mean google earth which I can't see anything but dirt on. So yes he is correct for me to assume it looks like nothing is there, but I also don't see any signs of people working from "dust till dawn" and since google earth doesn't' update everyday and sometimes not for over a year or so I'm going to have to say unless he provides this "satellite" proof, then it doesn't exist. I'm not denying that work is going on there mind you, but denying that they are hiding graves because covering up the graves is what you do. Are you telling me they should just leave them open and uncovered until someone is put into one? I know the readers are gullible but jeez..

Lastly the driver...I will assume he is not native to our country because he said this “ I got paid a whole lot of money to speak good english.” which is questioned as suspect. How is that suspect? Lets say he came from another country with nothing and now makes lots of money which can happen when you have no money!



So there you have it folks...A mass grave site being built right off N. Cave Creek Road in Arizona so why not go visit it? It seems the friendly government agents dressed like construction workers will let you take pictures and everything!


You did not make me feel any better. Your case fails. Just like penn and teller, you FAIL!!!
 
You did not make me feel any better. Your case fails. Just like penn and teller, you FAIL!!!


How can someone fail at something they weren't trying to do...? :confused:

I guess it's pretty amazing that I'm still alive, considering how very hard I fail at skydiving... Every. Single. Day.
 
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So, is Inforwars taking the position that outside of genocide there is no need for new cemeteries? They are aware that people can die, right now, of natural causes aren't they?
 
How can someone fail at something they weren't trying to do...? :confused:

I guess it's pretty amazing that I'm still alive, considering how very hard I fail at skydiving... Every. Single. Day.


How can you be so dense and not see what he was attempting?

Infowars is fear-mongering. Yeah. So what? All of it is fear-mongering.

Still a good read and a good story. It is something that needs to be looked at that's for sure.

Good on ya Infowars!
 
Infowars is fear-mongering. Yeah. So what? All of it is fear-mongering.

Still a good read and a good story. It is something that needs to be looked at that's for sure.

Good on ya Infowars!

So, you ADMIT that Infowars is manipulative and deceitful...and you praise them anyway?

When the government fear-mongers, you cry bloody murder. When Infowars fear-mongers, it's "good on ya"?
 
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You did not make me feel any better. Your case fails. Just like penn and teller, you FAIL!!!

Believe or not I didn't write that with the intention to make you feel better. I guess if I fail at anything it's understanding what Penn and Teller have to do with anything I said.:boggled:

You do prove a point I made though...

I know the readers are gullible but jeez..
 
Someone even "debunked" this on the David Icke forum. (i llke his lizard stories!) :D

Alex Jones/PP seem to be the worst of the worst when it comes to peddling fear. This is almost identical to the 500,00 disposable FEMA coffins thing.
 
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Just a follow up as they are trying to milk this story since someone went out there and took video of the property...All the videos are here

http://www.infowars.com/video-footage-of-phoenix-mass-grave-site/

The first video looks like a camera phone or something...I see the security was intense as they walked around freely past the easily open bar gates with the regular "don't walk around here" sign. However, I give the guy credit for at least saying this..

I am still skeptical about the mass graves being used for civilians, H5N1 victims, or other hypotheses on this issue. I'm not denying that it could be of dual-use, but I don't find it to be likely for this particular issue. Looking at the statistics on current living veterans, it would make sense that they would need this many graves. Many WWII, Korean, and Vietnam Vets are getting up there in age. Gulf War Vets are coming back very ill from DU exposure, "Gulf War Syndrome", and other issues and dying prematurely.

I however refuse to give Alex and his lackeys credit for saying that the director of the cemetery wouldn't comment when asked who was going to be buried there...For one how would he know other than Vets will be buried there? So instead of saying he didn't know they said he "sounded scripted and refused to comment".

I also heard something about that coffins were unnaturally close and it was a irregular formation....

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Yup....So ODD huh?:covereyes
 
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