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Mary Trump's Book

Belz... said:
Stacy, please. Theprestige is right. He's saying that placing your title on a book when that title is irrelevant to the topic of said book is silly. That's entirely independant of whether diagnosis at a distance is possible or reasonable.
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And yet the book isn't out yet. So you and TP are going by the snippets the news chose to highlight.

We might be looking for confirmation of the 'Trump is mentally ill' thread. The news media may as well. For all we know that is a small part of the book.

I don't think people that haven't read the book or at least skimmed the chapters can possibly say the title doesn't reflect the contents of the book.
 
acbytesla said:
This question regarding Mary Trump putting her degree on the cover of the book is a red herring. I doubt a soul buying the book cares about the degree.

I don't need a clinical psychologist to tell me that Donald Trump has serious psychological problems. A fifth grader can see that the man is batcrap crazy.
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Given I'm deep into the writing world with my book, I have learned a lot of these decisions are the prerogative of the editor. Believe it or not, the publisher's editor makes a lot of decisions about the cover and the title.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Given I'm deep into the writing world with my book, I have learned a lot of these decisions are the prerogative of the editor. Believe it or not, the publisher's editor makes a lot of decisions about the cover and the title.
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I don't doubt it. Prestige is not necessarily wrong that an editor may have thought adding Mary's title would sell more books. I just doubt that on this particular book, that degree makes much difference.

But I also know that if an author wants something and it is easily granted, they are likely to satisfy that desire.
 
theprestige said:
I think they're fine where they are. My only goal was to post an amusing sidebar about academic degrees next to author's names on book covers. The original positions of the posts were more than adequate for that purpose. Why? Do you think they should be somewhere else?
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I think maybe you just Googled "people who put PhD on their book covers" which takes me straight to Quora. "Apparently there is some debate" is a nifty little phrase, great for injecting innuendo. Called on it the poster can then say, "Who, moi? I was just teaching the controversy!"

"There's some debate" about every damn thing. There's a debate about whether the Earth is flat or spherical. It's a meaningless phrase designed IMO to distract, and it pisses me off that the right seems so much more skillful than the left at dropping these little gems. Is there a playbook or did you come up with that on your own?
 
theprestige said:
That's true for everyone, though. What else would it be? Alien mind control rays?
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At the core of things, maybe it's all biological. Based on our genes and the relentless conditioning of childhood. Trump is who he has to be. He learned to covet what he saw every day, and how to get it.

I'm mildly interested in the book but nowhere near enough to buy it.
 
theprestige said:
The way I see it, wanting to write a biography is more than enough qualification to write a biography. Doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a *good* biography, though. And obvs being related to someone is no guarantee of quality in a biography. And - here's the thing - having a Ph.D. is also no guarantee. But you put it on the cover, and it gives the impression the writing in the book may be a cut above.
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So in Reductio ad absurdum you should not put the author's name or the tittle of the book on the cover because potential readers might be unduly influenced? :boggled:
 
Any Trump with actual credentials and an actual career would probably want to feature that information in an effort to differentiate themselves from Trump's who profit solely from their name.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
So in Reductio ad absurdum you should not put the author's name or the tittle of the book on the cover because potential readers might be unduly influenced? : boggled :
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How do you figure? An author's body of work is probably the best indicator of the quality of their next book. Knowing who wrote the book is probably the second most relevant piece of informatio a publisher can put on the cover.

On the other hand, if it's their first book, and they have no track record as an author, the publisher might be tempted to find some other way to attract interest.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
And yet the book isn't out yet. So you and TP are going by the snippets the news chose to highlight.
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What do you mean, "the news chose"? As far as I know, no media outlet has chosen to highlight this.

We might be looking for confirmation of the 'Trump is mentally ill' thread. The news media may as well. For all we know that is a small part of the book.
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You're actually sticking with the idea that the "Ph.D." on the cover signals a professoinal diagnosis of Trump's mental state in the book?

I don't think people that haven't read the book or at least skimmed the chapters can possibly say the title doesn't reflect the contents of the book.
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Nobody is talking about the title of the book.
 
theprestige said:
You're actually sticking with the idea that the "Ph.D." on the cover signals a professoinal diagnosis of Trump's mental state in the book?
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A family member who does not like Donald Trump -who has an axe to grind because of the way DJT treated her father- and happens to be a clinical psychologist will have something authoritative to say about his mental state. Yup, that is perfectly consistent with the way SG and many others think mental health should be practiced.
 
theprestige said:
I hope this is a rhetorical question. I'm not sure I ever actually noticed the title. If I did I've forgotten it, and I can't be bothered to look it up again.
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Exactly, it's that dull. It's "Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man". It takes work to make hyperbole dull, but they managed it there.

I'd have named it "Orange Foolius".
 
xjx388 said:
A family member who does not like Donald Trump -who has an axe to grind because of the way DJT treated her father- and happens to be a clinical psychologist will have something authoritative to say about his mental state. Yup, that is perfectly consistent with the way SG and many others think mental health should be practiced.
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She has observed him extensively and intimately for decades, and she has the education and training to understand and interpret what she sees. She's not treating a patient. She's sharing her knowledge with the community she lives in.

It continues to astonish that you claim that laypeople aren't qualified to assess Trump's fitness, and then that people who are fully qualified should keep their mouths shut. When the Emperor is dancing down the street drunk and naked, who gets to say so?
 
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