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Mark Roberts Interview on Skeptic Zone

RedIbis said:
To clarify, I simply meant design to prevent collapse from airplane impact, but I'm sure you all knew that already.
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Actually, you meant to show up Gravy by claiming he said something he didn't. But we knew that already.
 
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Tippit said:
Well, your premise is wrong. I don't have a movement. I haven't attended any rallies, I don't own any investigate 9/11 t-shirts, I don't attend workgroups, or meet-ups. The questions were rhetorical in the sense that I really don't care what the answers are anyway. That there are bigots who think we were lied to about 9/11 is inconsequential. That rubes like Roberts are using smear-tactics to discredit a broad-based and diverse movement of people is irrelevant. He has failed to convince us with his version of the facts, and this is what he's left with.

The truth movement could be filled with axe-murderers and it wouldn't change what I think about 9/11, and it wouldn't change what happened.
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Here here, the first sensible descriptive remarks I have seen here!I have studied mr Roberts for some time now and have been puzzled.He has no relevant qualifications to tackle such a scientific and technical subject and seems to pad irrelevant topics out with detail obtained from equally unscientific sources.I admire his stance against 100's of highly qualified professionals knowing that their knowledge and experience is vastly superior to his especially as his position is so obviously untenable because they wield the sword of the scientific method. To watch a 'Liberal Democrat' openly shouting down protesters, some of them WW2 veterans, and humiliating people personally in public is not only perplexing, it's disturbing, but it's not the calibre of personality that is relevant here, but the ability to accurately reveal the truth.
 
Congruentruth said:
Here here, the first sensible descriptive remarks I have seen here!I have studied mr Roberts for some time now and have been puzzled.He has no relevant qualifications to tackle such a scientific and technical subject and seems to pad irrelevant topics out with detail obtained from equally unscientific sources.I admire his stance against 100's of highly qualified professionals knowing that their knowledge and experience is vastly superior to his especially as his position is so obviously untenable because they wield the sword of the scientific method. To watch a 'Liberal Democrat' openly shouting down protesters, some of them WW2 veterans, and humiliating people personally in public is not only perplexing, it's disturbing, but it's not the calibre of personality that is relevant here, but the ability to accurately reveal the truth.
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Got anything serious to say or can we out this dead thread back in its grave.
 
Congruentruth said:
Here here, the first sensible descriptive remarks I have seen here!I have studied mr Roberts for some time now and have been puzzled.He has no relevant qualifications to tackle such a scientific and technical subject and seems to pad irrelevant topics out with detail obtained from equally unscientific sources.I admire his stance against 100's of highly qualified professionals knowing that their knowledge and experience is vastly superior to his especially as his position is so obviously untenable because they wield the sword of the scientific method. To watch a 'Liberal Democrat' openly shouting down protesters, some of them WW2 veterans, and humiliating people personally in public is not only perplexing, it's disturbing, but it's not the calibre of personality that is relevant here, but the ability to accurately reveal the truth.
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Welcome to the JREF. That being said, the Humor subforum is thataway >>>.
 
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roscoe is back.... or wait.. another socky for stundie? or is it pdoh? Nah... It must be a coincidence...
 
Regnad Kcin said:
Welcome to the JREF. That being said, the Humor subforum is thataway >>>.
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Thanks, I have been here a while actually.If you think that the 'scientific method' is a subject to be passed off as trivial and unimportant then fine, you have that right.Creationists, afterall are entitled to their opinions based on exactly the same premise.Unfortunately for both them and yourselves it is the best and most credible way on the planet for disseminating what is considered to be true.Perhaps a visit to the humor subforum would be more fitting for yourself after that comment.
 
Congruentruth said:
Thanks, I have been here a while actually.If you think that the 'scientific method' is a subject to be passed off as trivial and unimportant then fine, you have that right.Creationists, afterall are entitled to their opinions based on exactly the same premise.Unfortunately for both them and yourselves it is the best and most credible way on the planet for disseminating what is considered to be true.Perhaps a visit to the humor subforum would be more fitting for yourself after that comment.
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Interesting you should mention Creationists.

Whats the connection between truthers and Creationists do you think? Oh I remember, they both HATE peer review and think THE MAWN is out to get them and not allow them into real respected mainstream journals. Thats why they have to set up their own fake ones... yup truthers did that too.

Funny.
 
Edx said:
Interesting you should mention Creationists.

Whats the connection between truthers and Creationists do you think? Oh I remember, they both HATE peer review and think THE MAWN is out to get them and not allow them into real respected mainstream journals. Thats why they have to set up their own fake ones... yup truthers did that too.

Funny.
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Neither group can relate to reality. :rolleyes:
 
Walter Ego said:
My latest video seems appropriate here. It was in fact inspired by this thread.

Take a gander at truthers rushing to the defense of Holocaust denier Eric Williams at a truther confab in Chandler, Arizona, last year. Williams was the organizer of the conference until the ***** hit the fan thanks to wiseacre journalist Steve Lemons of the Phoenix New Times and Pat. C. (Brainster on this forum) of the Screw Loose Change blog. Pat was in the room too but is not in the video.

The video features local nutter Kent "Cow Killer" Knudson and Uncle James Fetzer singing the praises of Eric Hufschmid.

By the company they keep, ye shall know them.

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"By the company they keep, ye shall know them". Yep. There's that ol' creationist mentality I was referring to.
 
Edx said:
Interesting you should mention Creationists.

Whats the connection between truthers and Creationists do you think? Oh I remember, they both HATE peer review and think THE MAWN is out to get them and not allow them into real respected mainstream journals. Thats why they have to set up their own fake ones... yup truthers did that too.

Funny.
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read it again.Mr Roberts needs to present a scientifically accredited and peer reviewed version of his 'investigations'.You see, any rational person that is presented with such a study say, showing nano technology and a clear thermate signature taken from microscopic balls of iron that could only be formed under extreme temperatures and pressures akin to explosive activity from a scene of a crime, is frankly not going to be entirely persuaded when the main and only credible counter case is 'paint'.If your highly qualified and knowledgeable 'leader' could present some real science and real experiments and have it verified by real scientists then I would be more than willing to give it a fair critique.'
 
BTW Just what are Mr Robert's qualifications? Good grief, it's a simple enough question but every time I ask it people run away from it as if they were running from a grizzly bear.
 
Congruentruth said:
read it again.Mr Roberts needs to present a scientifically accredited and peer reviewed version of his 'investigations'.You see, any rational person that is presented with such a study say, showing nano technology and a clear thermate signature taken from microscopic balls of iron that could only be formed under extreme temperatures and pressures akin to explosive activity from a scene of a crime, is frankly not going to be entirely persuaded when the main and only credible counter case is 'paint'.If your highly qualified and knowledgeable 'leader' could present some real science and real experiments and have it verified by real scientists then I would be more than willing to give it a fair critique.'
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Wow. Talk about projection. Yea, no REAL scientists have studied the collapses at all who don't find it suspicious, have they? LOL. Tell you what: Why don't YOU folks do that first, since of course you are the ones who have a problem with the commonly-held narrative of 9/11. Then we would be more than willing to give the "inside job" theory a fair critique.
 
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twinstead said:
Wow. Talk about projection. Yea, no REAL scientists have studied the collapses at all, have they? LOL. Tell you what: Why don't YOU folks do that first, since of course you are the ones who have a problem with the commonly-held narrative of 9/11. Then we would be more than willing to give the "inside job" theory a fair critique.
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Sorry to pop that little bubble you have obviously been living in but the study I referred to has already gone global scientifically - the Japanese insisted that Obama open a new investigation on the back of it.BTW, nice try, but I still want to see Mr Roberts scientifically accredited and review investigative findings - or would you like another go at side-stepping.
 
RedIbis said:
Rereading that thread, I caught Roberts in a whopper and asserted my position with civility.
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Congruentruth said:
read it again.Mr Roberts needs to present a scientifically accredited and peer reviewed version of his 'investigations'.You see, any rational person that is presented with such a study say, showing nano technology and a clear thermate signature taken from microscopic balls of iron that could only be formed under extreme temperatures and pressures akin to explosive activity from a scene of a crime, is frankly not going to be entirely persuaded when the main and only credible counter case is 'paint'.If your highly qualified and knowledgeable 'leader' could present some real science and real experiments and have it verified by real scientists then I would be more than willing to give it a fair critique.'
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Congruentruth said:
Sorry to pop that little bubble you have obviously been living in but the study I referred to has already gone global scientifically - the Japanese insisted that Obama open a new investigation on the back of it.BTW, nice try, but I still want to see Mr Roberts scientifically accredited and review investigative findings - or would you like another go at side-stepping.
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